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knucklehead":3rjotpy0 said:
your one to talk with your aquacultured argonite avatar :lol:

oh com'on! That statement is FUNNY!!!!! LOLOLOL
 

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U'hum No his methods are for removing nutrients from the water and adding calcium what he uses has nothing to do with the method he chose to use the LR that he did but it had nothing to do with his or my method Lr does have some filtering effects on an aquarium overall but has nothing to do with nutrient removal :P

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beanpole209":36z8y15k said:
using bobs method has absolutely nothing to do with where you get you LR and LR is not a method :!:

Actually, that is incorrect. Bob has on numerous occasions stated that him method includes not buying expensive live rock, but using cheap dead rock.

Live rock is indeed a method. I know several reefers who think it is worse than sand.
 
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Just as a review here, again "my" method is to simply get the plant life thriving and let the plant life take care of the system. Everything else is secondary to that.

so you have two choices;

1), get the plant life you want like bean's, my tank, galleon's, Guy's, and every other reef tank I have seen or

2) get the plant life you don't want like Rob's hair algae and the green water tank at the beginning of this thread.

By taking almost two pages before finally admitting he had to weekly scrape off agae Galleon is typical of why people starting tanks like Rob are so fustrated when they get the plant life.

It simply is better to fess up right from the start, reef tanks depend upon plant life. That way people like the green tank person and Rob know what to expect and how to deal with it.
 
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beaslbob":1pgbp7o7 said:
Just as a review here, again "my" method is to simply get the plant life thriving and let the plant life take care of the system. Everything else is secondary to that.

so you have two choices;

1), get the plant life you want like bean's, my tank, galleon's, Guy's, and every other reef tank I have seen or

2) get the plant life you don't want like Rob's hair algae and the green water tank at the beginning of this thread.

By taking almost two pages before finally admitting he had to weekly scrape off agae Galleon is typical of why people starting tanks like Rob are so fustrated when they get the plant life.

It simply is better to fess up right from the start, reef tanks depend upon plant life. That way people like the green tank person and Rob know what to expect and how to deal with it.
:roll: I think it is time for an aspirin.
 
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beanpole209":8etb38m1 said:
whats galleons excuse atleast if were talking about bobs tank i could chalk it upto our methods if I wonted to do that galleons using your methods hmm what does this have to do with anything well galleons tank looks like the perfect biotope for a gulf trash aquarium sooo :lol:

are you for real?

what don't you understand about Galleons tank being a scientific display?
it is not a constructed for awe...

you are either trolling with this or you are not reading the responses... or maybe you just refuse to acknowledge them?

whatever it is... you need to stop it if you want anyone to take you seriously here.
personally, i think your tank looks okay.. i think you need to listen a bit more about what is likely to happen as it matures but live and learn the hard way if you like.. just don't try to spread misinformation about your methods or Bob's methods while posing as seasoned experts... it isn't in the best interest of the newbies on the forum.

many newbies are confused when they get here and with some people touting half baked ideas based on impossibilities... well, let's just say it doesn't help them get thier minds in order and it doesn't reflect well on the members of this board.
 
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knucklehead":2xzlm586 said:
Podman":2xzlm586 said:
it amazes me that beanpole is bagging on galleon's tank for asthetic reasons and is stating that he will stick with the more expensive method (fiji rock).
what are you beanpole, some kind of elitist? :lol: :roll:

your one to talk with your aquacultured argonite avatar :lol:


hehe

This thread cracks me up

what would my head be worth?.. 150 dollars?
 

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why dont you slither back to Pornland or Neverland or where ever your from and let us the normal people discuss about our tanks and voice our opinions!

There is probubley few people on this forum if any that take me seriously anyway so why should I reserve myself ?

when you all talk about newbs you know that most of the them are old enough to make up there own mind and if there not than maby there not responsible enough to be setting up a saltwater tank in the first place our methods do not take that much money as far as aquarium standards go and I belive that if you have the money to setup a normal reef setup skimmer lr whole shibang then you could try it our way for awile and if you didnt like it then you could add all the other equip- woulnt cost anymore and and you would know if its for you :|

Podman":ie3f7py8 said:
beanpole209":ie3f7py8 said:
whats galleons excuse atleast if were talking about bobs tank i could chalk it upto our methods if I wonted to do that galleons using your methods hmm what does this have to do with anything well galleons tank looks like the perfect biotope for a gulf trash aquarium sooo :lol:

are you for real?

what don't you understand about Galleons tank being a scientific display?
it is not a constructed for awe...

you are either trolling with this or you are not reading the responses... or maybe you just refuse to acknowledge them?

whatever it is... you need to stop it if you want anyone to take you seriously here.
personally, i think your tank looks okay.. i think you need to listen a bit more about what is likely to happen as it matures but live and learn the hard way if you like.. just don't try to spread misinformation about your methods or Bob's methods while posing as seasoned experts... it isn't in the best interest of the newbies on the forum.

many newbies are confused when they get here and with some people touting half baked ideas based on impossibilities... well, let's just say it doesn't help them get thier minds in order and it doesn't reflect well on the members of this board.
 
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beanpole209":3873owf5 said:
There is probubley few people on this forum if any that take me seriously anyway so why should I reserve myself ?


:lol: okay... carry on :lol:

when you all talk about newbs you know that most of the them are old enough to make up there own mind and if there not than maby there not responsible enough to be setting up a saltwater tank in the first place our methods do not take that much money as far as aquarium standards go and I belive that if you have the money to setup a normal reef setup skimmer lr whole shibang then you could try it our way for awile and if you didnt like it then you could add all the other equip- woulnt cost anymore and and you would know if its for you :|

many people have done 'your methods' long before you ever started a reef tank.
this is a delusional bit... you guys being innovative.

i told Bob some time ago that he has every right to voice his opinion but that he should expect to be treated just as he is being treated because his "methods" are absurd.

back to pornland....
 
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beaslbob":2b6lwcmw said:
Just as a review here, again "my" method is to simply get the plant life thriving and let the plant life take care of the system. Everything else is secondary to that.

I guess that is you method this week - you keep changing it depending on critisim. I fear what it may be in the future.

so you have two choices;

1), get the plant life you want like bean's, my tank, galleon's, Guy's, and every other reef tank I have seen or

2) get the plant life you don't want like Rob's hair algae and the green water tank at the beginning of this thread

This is insane - do you really believe that Galleons system is anything like yours? You have gone from claiming that macros uptake any bad things in the tank to claiming that coralline will process nutrients the same way - without exporting anything.
You are basically saying that everyone who doesn't have hair algae or green water is using your 'method'.

By taking almost two pages before finally admitting he had to weekly scrape off agae Galleon is typical of why people starting tanks like Rob are so fustrated when they get the plant life.

Are you seriously trying to compare scraping coralline with a hair algae issue?

It simply is better to fess up right from the start, reef tanks depend upon plant life. That way people like the green tank person and Rob know what to expect and how to deal with it.

I don't think anyone on the online boards thinks reef tanks don't have 'plant life' (depending on how you are choosing to define that term today) in them. All you seem to be saying now is that reefs have 'plants'.
 

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I had an idea earlier just wonted to run by everyone I think I could make small nano using bobs methods for under 100 $ if everyone wonted to donate money I could do it like a raffle and after the nano build off was over then I could give it away at the end of the build off.
 
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Podman":2ufsepng said:
knucklehead":2ufsepng said:
Podman":2ufsepng said:
it amazes me that beanpole is bagging on galleon's tank for asthetic reasons and is stating that he will stick with the more expensive method (fiji rock).
what are you beanpole, some kind of elitist? :lol: :roll:

your one to talk with your aquacultured argonite avatar :lol:


hehe

This thread cracks me up

what would my head be worth?.. 150 dollars?

I think over here on the east coast I could get at least 350 for it, if you wanted to ship it to me I will sell if for ya

That's

tree fiddy

trrrrree fiddy

:lol:
 
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Id rather have some hair algae spots then a planted reef tank.

Bean - how long has your tank been running?

Bob - do you have an updated picture of your tank?

Until then please do not use my name in your posts and after that dont use it either. You know hardly anything about my tank and my setup.
 
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This guy's screen name should be changed to BANpole.

*hint to the admins*

Peace,

Chip ;)
 
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IMO Beanpole is fine, the kid's just expressing his opinion like everyone else. I do wish his Period Key wasn't defective though. The lack of a period makes his posts nearly impossible to decipher.

beanpole209":2t49j6ey said:
when you all talk about newbs you know that most of the them are old enough to make up there own mind and if there not than maby there not responsible enough to be setting up a saltwater tank in the first place our methods do not take that much money as far as aquarium standards go and I belive that if you have the money to setup a normal reef setup skimmer lr whole shibang then you could try it our way for awile and if you didnt like it then you could add all the other equip- woulnt cost anymore and and you would know if its for you :|
 
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beaslbob":31y5ngat said:
By taking almost two pages before finally admitting he had to weekly scrape off agae Galleon is typical of why people starting tanks like Rob are so fustrated when they get the plant life.

You can't be serious. I scrape a few small spots every week. A trivial amount. Nothing like harvesting macros. Not only that, it doesn't even get exported.
 
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Podman":3017vy67 said:
beanpole209":3017vy67 said:
whats galleons excuse atleast if were talking about bobs tank i could chalk it upto our methods if I wonted to do that galleons using your methods hmm what does this have to do with anything well galleons tank looks like the perfect biotope for a gulf trash aquarium sooo :lol:

are you for real?

what don't you understand about Galleons tank being a scientific display?
it is not a constructed for awe...

you are either trolling with this or you are not reading the responses... or maybe you just refuse to acknowledge them?

whatever it is... you need to stop it if you want anyone to take you seriously here.
personally, i think your tank looks okay.. i think you need to listen a bit more about what is likely to happen as it matures but live and learn the hard way if you like.. just don't try to spread misinformation about your methods or Bob's methods while posing as seasoned experts... it isn't in the best interest of the newbies on the forum.

many newbies are confused when they get here and with some people touting half baked ideas based on impossibilities... well, let's just say it doesn't help them get thier minds in order and it doesn't reflect well on the members of this board.

Good post. Thanks Pod.
 
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galleon":3fxtwm6g said:
You can't be serious. I scrape a few small spots every week. A trivial amount.

Beaslbob has a valid point here IMO Galleon. Using his methods the typical display will have far too much PO4 to allow substantial Coralline growth. I doubt he will ever have to worry too much about scraping coralline. I enjoy some of the growth forms of coralline but everyone has different tastes. It is a pain to scrape once in a while.
 

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Guy":t9kivn4o said:
galleon":t9kivn4o said:
You can't be serious. I scrape a few small spots every week. A trivial amount.

Beaslbob has a valid point here IMO Galleon. Using his methods the typical display will have far too much PO4 to allow Coralline growth. I doubt he will ever have to worry too much about scraping coralline. I enjoy some of the growth forms of coralline but everyone has different tastes. It is a pain to scrape once in a while.

In my FW planted I do get a very slow hard algae growth that I scrape off the glass about every six months or so. Additionally, I am getting corraline growth again very slow on my 55g. I have two spots about 10"x2" now. Will try to get a picture. And have have added some halimeda which arrived totally white but turned ~60-70% green in a few days and a week later some new full "leaves" showing up that are the usual green color. Meanwhile calcium has remained at 400ppm.

Will try to get a picture of the corraline tonight.

Whatever the phosphates, there is slow corraline and calcius algae growth.

And the wife wants me to scrap those growths off. So I guess I do have to scrape corraline after all. :lol: But hopefully it will be every six months or so.
 
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