TWU Strike Poll

[jhale]

there are plenty of topics on the board that have nothing to do with reefing. I see nothing wrong with it as long as things are kept civil, and confined to the nudibar.

 

[alrha]

Ok, I am really going to heat things up -
What do life threatening jobs like policemen, and firemen make ? Where's the democracy in that Al? Equality is a cornerstone of democracy, so is due process, both of which are getting exercised by both sides of the strike -
So, murderers get due process too, and even released only to murder again -
one of the sad hypocracies of American democracy - so strike they can, and break the law they can, and be fined they can - BUT that too will be appealed and reduced (if not eliminated as in previous cases) by that court decision.

i want to try to focus on this issue.
but in short, all those laws were ultimately created as a voice of the people. if you believe in the death penalty, you can vote that way, if you believe people deserve a second chance you can vote that way. but whichever side wins, we should respect it and not be sore loosers that our personal (minority) view was discarded.

 

[alrha]

:bigeyes2: i feeL the hardNess... i mean hard feeLings coming baCK :lol: :joke:

none at all.

 

[alrha]

there are plenty of topics on the board that have nothing to do with reefing. I see nothing wrong with it as long as things are kept civil, and confined to the nudibar.

Jon, i think it is working out better this second time around.
perhaps the problem may be that in a more serious thread, it becomes more difficult to tell when one is just exagerating to being sarcastic (i.e. joking around). we need to use :joke: more often to clarify.

 

[alrha]

just pointing it out. personally it does not sound like a meager pay that would warrant such a strike.

after reviewing the case study of the PATCO vs FAA strike in '81, i fear the current issue may be more a matter of the MTA/TWU relations rather than the actual benefits. which would make this not a contractual issue but more of a managerial issue.
The problem in that case was that the FAA was operating as a monopoly and as such their employees did not really have alternatives after being trained and specialized as controllers. The MTA, while it is a large company, is not a monopoly as there are other mass transit companies in the country and other choices in NYC for those workers (at least for bus drivers and booth clerks). Lastly, the jobs of the MTA do not seem to be as specialized as those of the FAA.

just trying to pin down the issue at hand.

ok, just to get an idea what people would think (for my doctorate :kidding: ).
If the union workers had earned $100,000 last year, would today's strike still have taken place?
:scratchch

 

[jawwad2004]

I am just going to throw random words out to lighten the mood, starting with this one. . .

 

[jawwad2004]

VaGiNa

 

[joseney21]

lol, good one

 

[joseney21]

"Subway operators earned an average of $62,438 a year,
including overtime, under the previous three-year contract, the
MTA said. Train conductors averaged $53,000, subway booth clerks
$50,720, and bus drivers $62,551, the state agency said."
- Bloomberg News

up in that quote it says OT included... do we know how much OT??very important either way when throwing those numbers around.

 

[joseney21]

i have a friend that will make close to 65k working for ems, but the guy also has the most OT hours in our battallion probably the service. doesn't neccessarily mean he's getting paid enough.

 

[alrha]

up in that quote it says OT included... do we know how much OT??very important either way when throwing those numbers around.

"The MTA wasn't able to provide the average amount of overtime."
(from that same article)

 

[joseney21]

if i feel motivated enough i might look up the base salaries (i doubt i'll be motivated enough, lol)

 

[jawwad2004]

ReCtal

 

[joseney21]

ok, just to get an idea what people would think (for my doctorate :kidding: ).
If the union workers had earned $100,000 last year, would today's strike still have taken place?
:scratchch

i know youre not supposed to answer a question with a question, but in response to your question here goes....

if the workers were only getting paid $20k/year and the MTA is offering a $h1tty contract would the strike still be illegal and/or wrong??

Temperature

 

[ShaunW]

I am just going to throw random words out to lighten the mood, starting with this one. . .

Pansy

 

[House of Laughter]

coccyx

House

 

[inkblue]

coccyx

House

ouCh House... i hit miNe onCe, tooK liKe a month to feeL betteR :bigeyes2: :lol: :irked:

 

[jhale]

i know youre not supposed to answer a question with a question, but in response to your question here goes....

if the workers were only getting paid $20k/year and the MTA is offering a $h1tty contract would the strike still be illegal and/or wrong??

Temperature

intriguing

yes it would still be illegal under the taylor law.

 

[inkblue]

oNe thingS for sure, trading and seLLing here haS been sLower coz itS a haSSle to pick up anyThing right now :arg: to0k me liKe 2hrs to get home, whaT usuaLLy takes 20 mins :eek1: i misS the subWays :smoker:

 

[leo]

ouCh House... i hit miNe onCe, tooK liKe a month to feeL betteR :bigeyes2: :lol: :irked:

i landed on mine (my weight and that of the instructor) when i went skydiving, i think i broke it cuz the pain didn't go away for like 6 months.

Jose