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jaa1456 said:
+1 on the new TL being ugly
It's a shame. Acura really dropped the ball and ruined a previously beautiful car.

They gave us one as a loaner while the RDX was getting serviced. Loved driving it but hate how it looks. I was pleased when I test drove this accord and it felt very similar.


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I like how the TSX looks but I agree, not a big fan of the TL (actually never have really been a fan of the looks of the TL, to be honest)

The Accord Coupe would be an option, but the used cars that are under 20k have too many miles.

At the 20k price point, it'd have to have less than 10K miles for it to be worth it for me at this point.
 

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STAY AWAY FROM CIVICS, SI or not, sounds like an angry beehive,slow as a turtle
Go with the new EVO or EVO IX, very fast
VW and audi (electrical nightmares)
My cuzin has a charger, they are heavy, but fast
 

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20g remember? used evo= abused evo period!


Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. I have been buying used cars for along time and I have worked on many cars over the years. It?s just like anything else you get what you pay for. There are evos out there that are stock and haven?t been tracked or beat on much. I found one no problem. These cars are very reliable when taking care of. Chances are if you buy one that is completely stock unmodded, it hasn?t been beat on. You just have to know what to look for. Its an assumption made about wrx/evos because many people mod them and use them to go fast. You just have to do your research. Hondas are total pieces of garbage. Just slow econoboxes that have junk transmissions. The civic SI is a wanabe sports car. Good luck keeping up with an evo, and good luck with your transmission.

And what?s up with everyone wanting to go American? I haven?t seen one American car out there that is reliable and fun to drive and that can actually get traction on the street. Not saying that I don?t like American cars, but they are what they are. BTW lS1 is one of the sickest motors ever to be made.
 

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stage3-s4 i am a german car fan my self but are u saying u would not drive a vett/ or salleene mustang ????

I just hate big hp rwd cars they are just junk on the street. I dont feel like running drag radials just to get the car to hook. What im saying is that for the a same price of a salieene cobra mustang or a c6 z06 I would rather get a used 996 turbo, which will smoke both those cars on the street even though it has less power. AWD twin turbo FTW!!!!
 

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Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. I have been buying used cars for along time and I have worked on many cars over the years. It’s just like anything else you get what you pay for. There are evos out there that are stock and haven’t been tracked or beat on much. I found one no problem. These cars are very reliable when taking care of. Chances are if you buy one that is completely stock unmodded, it hasn’t been beat on. You just have to know what to look for. Its an assumption made about wrx/evos because many people mod them and use them to go fast. You just have to do your research. Hondas are total pieces of garbage. Just slow econoboxes that have junk transmissions. The civic SI is a wanabe sports car. Good luck keeping up with an evo, and good luck with your transmission.

And what’s up with everyone wanting to go American? I haven’t seen one American car out there that is reliable and fun to drive and that can actually get traction on the street. Not saying that I don’t like American cars, but they are what they are. BTW lS1 is one of the sickest motors ever to be made.

That was kinda harsh dude. Tom's a good guy. And I'm sure there are some Evo's that aren't beat up, and the statement that most sports care are driven hard has some truth to it as well.

"Everyone wants to go American" ... that debate has been going on a long time. While I do agree that American cars aren't typically as fun to drive, it's still important to buy American products, regardless of what they are. Detroit is in terrible shape, largely because people don't buy American cars, no matter who's fault that is. Fact of the matter remains that if you buy foreign cars, the money goes to another country. (Yes there are some 'foreign' plants in the US, and obviously a dealer/salesperson working here will make money...) It's not just Detroit. Cities all over that supply parts, etc for American companies will be affected.

On the other hand, the American car companies weren't doing what they should have been (developing fuel efficient cars sooner, not paying their standard assembly worker 50-75 grand/year.. also, I remember reading where health insurance alone was costing somewhere around 2K more per car sold.. talk about a disadvantage).. so obviously it's really not an easy, black and white issue.

As for my personal stance on the subject.. I'm undecided, especially when it comes to cars. I try my best to buy American whenever possible. The only vehicles I've ever owned have been American, and each have treated me very well. What I'll buy as my next car.. I'm not sure yet.
 

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the point here is to buy the car that best fits your needs. You cant worry about where it is made or who desinged it. Thats just an asinine way of buying things. I just dont understand the fascianation with american cars these days. Im not going to feel bad for Gm/ford/chrysler because they lack skills in making cars. Mabye if they would make a nice awd car that has some power they would sell more cars. One is the last time they did this? At least ford is trying with the new SHO tauras v6 twin turbo awd, but only comes automatic and weighs a ton. I wasnt trying to be harsh, Its just that I hate when people throw wrx/stis/evos under the bus because they have been "beat" on or are "unreliable" when they clearly dont know what they are talking about.
 

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From jaa1465 to Unkownwaters subject 3000gt = Stratus
I know these cars in and out and they are no where near the same. The 3000GT non turbo V6 is the same motor as the Turbo. The 3.0 you are talking about is the standard Mitsubishi motor they put into the Eclipse,Galant and a few others. The 3000Gt has not been made in years and that motor was put into that car only. Matter of fact the Stealth RT did not even recieve the same motor. That motor was a one off motor for that car only. The 3.0 v6 you are reffering to can not handle the turbos and has nothing in common with your RT motor. Sorry to dis appoint you but go ahead and check it out I will wait.
 
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jaa1465 3000gt = Stratus
I know these cars in and out and they are no where near the same. The 3000GT non turbo V6 is the same motor as the Turbo. The 3.0 you are talking about is the standard Mitsubishi motor they put into the Eclipse,Galant and a few others. The 3000Gt has not been made in years and that motor was put into that car only. Matter of fact the Stealth RT did not even recieve the same motor. That motor was a one off motor for that car only. The 3.0 v6 you are reffering to can not handle the turbos and has nothing in common with your RT motor. Sorry to dis appoint you but go ahead and check it out I will wait.




The car im talking about is a 2002 dodge stratus R/T and it has JDM 6G72 motor kind like this one they are talking about in this article I pasted for you jaa1465


JDM MITSUBISHI 6G72 dodge stealth SOHC and the mitsubishi 3000GT SOHC.

Other applications are the Mitsubishi Diamante and Galant SOHC 6g72 cars.
single cam engine / v6 / 3.0L
 
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The car im talking about is a 2002 dodge stratus R/T and it has JDM 6G72 motor kind like this one they are talking about in this article I pasted for you jaa1465


JDM MITSUBISHI 6G72 dodge stealth SOHC and the mitsubishi 3000GT SOHC.

Other applications are the Mitsubishi Diamante and Galant SOHC 6g72 cars.
single cam engine / v6 / 3.0L


We all know they are DSMs, its no secret here. Its the same thing that the eagle talon=misubishi eclipse=plymouth laser
 

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stage3-S4;736732[COLOR=Black said:
Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. I have been buying used cars for along time and I have worked on many cars over the years. It?s just like anything else you get what you pay for. There are evos out there that are stock and haven?t been tracked or beat on much. I found one no problem. These cars are very reliable when taking care of. Chances are if you buy one that is completely stock unmodded, it hasn?t been beat on. You just have to know what to look for. Its an assumption made about wrx/evos because many people mod them and use them to go fast. You just have to do your research. Hondas are total pieces of garbage. Just slow econoboxes that have junk transmissions. The civic SI is a wanabe sports car. Good luck keeping up with an evo, and good luck with your transmission.

who is the one who has no idea what we are talking about? aren't we giving opinions on what would be a good suggestion for e.inthec within the parameters he provided? we are not talking about what car we ourselves would drive or which car is faster than the other. if you would go back and read carefully 20k is what we're talking about. quick browsed through the ebay, craiglist, etc., 20k will get you around 2005-2006 evo with 40-50+ k miles. that's pretty used and most likely abused in my book.
you just have to know what to look for....you are correct on that one....sorry i don't work on cars...for an average person, one wouldn't really know what to look for. perhaps if we have been working on cars and buying used ones for a long time like you have we would know what to look for.
i never said the civic si was a sport car....i said that it fits the criteria given and that it was fun to drive. who is the one who has absolutely no idea what he's talking about...."good luck keeping up with an evo"!!! that makes me laugh, only a moron would compare the two.
eric(e.inthec) did not say he wanted a sportscar that goes really fast. he said a fun (to drive) car. fun to drive cars don't have to be the fastest ones. an s2000 is a fun to drive car and it's far from being really fast.

then later on

I just hate big hp rwd cars they are just junk on the street. I dont feel like running drag radials just to get the car to hook. What im saying is that for the a same price of a salieene cobra mustang or a c6 z06 I would rather get a used 996 turbo, which will smoke both those cars on the street even though it has less power. AWD twin turbo FTW!!!!

gt2- big horse power, rwd....is that junk.? oh wait gt3 is rwd also....and it doesn't even have a turbo. hmmm and last time i check a ferrari has big hp rwd.....must be junk also in your book. who is the one who has absolutely no idea what he's yapping about? have you ever owned the 996 turbo, gt2, and gt3? well i have.....the latter two with the rwd....i certainly would not considered them junk. and yes i wouldn't know if my 996 turbo, gt3, nor the gt2 would smoke the saleen nor the co6 in the street. only a**holes would do that in the street. it's the punk like you talking big trash who would do that.
you sir have no idea what you are talking about.
 
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I am not sure where this thread is going but E did you find a car yet with all the wonderful information in this thread?
 
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The s2000 is FARRRRR from a chick car lol. But man if a chick drives it... that's hot.

It's not like I'm telling him to buy a Beetle Convertible with that stupid flower holder on the dash.

-I own a 2009 Honda Accord LX-P. Love the car to death as a daily driver it's great. Probably a car you'd want in the future when you have a kid or something.
-I also have a 2005 Acura TSX. My fun car... pretty much a 4 door s2000.

-I am looking into a s2000 also but problem is it's a collectors car so the prices don't come down too much.
-The Camaro is nice but no dealer lets you test drive it which I think is retarded.
-Take a look at the Hyundai Genesis Coupe. I think you'll like it.
-Also consider used Nissan's. A 350z Convertible is nice and those things barely hold any value so you can get a nice used one for a great price.

To the point with Toyota's and resale value. Keep an eye on that. With all the scrutiny Toyota has been under, values have started going down.
s2000 is so a chicks car. look at 2 fast 2 furious! a chick driving the car. 350z is nice though. a beetle is nice with the flower holder
 

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