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oh207

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I think the per kWh cost would not be the issue. I recall some time ago I had a discussion with someone who works for a utility company and learned that no utility can make profit on the energy itself. The cost is with charges for the lines and all the surcharges etc...
Don't know if this is true...
 

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I am out east and.....
My bill went up from $274.00 to $393.00. Power Supply Charges for KWH went from
$.079766 to $.107591.
Between taxes and these blood suckers , if you don't make over a hundred K you're not going to be able to live here much longer.
 

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I just talked with the wife. We are going to try and re fi and look into solar panels before I give up. She knows how much I love my tank. I will see what happens in a month. I just wont make any purchases this month for the tank and shut my frag tank down for now.
 

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Phil they have plans for solar panels now. You dont have to spend 30 gs


D you REALLY need to do A LOT of research. It costs about $4 to $6 per watt to have a solar system installed. Thats if the roof and substructure is able to support the panels without additional work being needed first. To offset most or all of the electricity bill the average household needs a system with at least 5 to 6 kilowatts. That's about $20,000 to $36,000, not including batteries, which can add another 20 percent. The cost of maintenance on those batteries isn't even figured in. Even the best flooded cells which can handle the repeated charging discharging is VERY HIGH. Not to mention the average life span is 3-5 years along with the critical mainteneance needed. In a home you usually see sealed batteries so that little to no venting of the area they are stored in is needed. These have a shorter lifespan and can take up a lot of room. The federal tax credit, good through 2016, is a 30 percent of the purchase price with no limit. If your solar panels cost $25,000, you?re eligible for a tax credit of $7,500. if your AVG monthly bill is $220 than you're looking at roughly 11 years for the payback. To efficiently power a home on LI with solar it's a 8-10 year time to recoup cost outlay depending on your useage. I as well as 3 guys I work with have looked into it.

On another note:

"For March, the power supply charge will jump to 12.3 cents a kilowatt hour, PSEG said, from 11.6 cents in February. The charge was at a 12-month low of 7 cents in October but has risen each month since. Last year, it fell every month between March and June. PSEG Long Island, which operates the system under contract to LIPA, says the hikes are tied to soaring natural gas prices. In addition, LIPA reported on Wednesday that it exceeded its budget for fuel and purchased power in January by more than $60 million year to date, an amount that must be recovered in future months."

As for the rate cap that was promised it has happened. The problem is The freeze applied to the delivery charge portion of bills, which rarely fluctuated over LIPA's 15-year history. The freeze is on the wrong rate"
 
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So your lipa bill went up 150 a month your going to refi your house and rase your payment ?
If you can afford to rase your mortgage the. Just pay the bill
 
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I had the solar power company from home depot come to my house last week you actually don't pay for the solar panels they provide them for u with a signed 20 year agreament .i can go into more detail about it and to be honest with you it sounded. Like a good deal .my issue was I have a two family and they would only do one meyer so for what I wanted to do this wouldn't have worked out or I would have been all over it
 

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+1 ....I am going through the process for solar panels as well. One good thing about solar panels is that you will be locking your rate for next 20 years. I am getting couple of estimates from different installers to see who is giving me better lease rate and more wattage panels.....
 

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I wish I could do solar I'm in my house hopefully long term so for me I feel it might be worth it !
I Havnt looked into it yet but anyone with a lg reef in a house on LI gotta be paying over 300a month in electric
 

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So far my fill is arround 345 - 370 and in summer it drops decent amount. If i go with solar based on estimate i got my bill will be 170 every month and my bill with electric company will be only service charge which will be around 25-30 bucks every month. but in summer if i have enough credit build with electric company then that will be washed away... if anyone getting solar just make sure besides getting better lease rate see if you are getting more output panels (350w vs 250w). it makes big difference....
 

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My question is how much will you "save" shutting down your tank? The increase you are talking about seems to be a price hike in your area. I would hate for you to shut down your tank and not see a significant savings. Since the cost of running your tank is not directly related to the increase you may wind up being sorry you shut down your tank. Not sure if you can do it in your area, but here in NJ I was able to switch my energy company. PSEG still is the provider but I use a different company as a supplier. I was able to get a cheaper rate then PSEG. Good Luck.
 

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My question is how much will you "save" shutting down your tank? The increase you are talking about seems to be a price hike in your area. I would hate for you to shut down your tank and not see a significant savings. Since the cost of running your tank is not directly related to the increase you may wind up being sorry you shut down your tank. Not sure if you can do it in your area, but here in NJ I was able to switch my energy company. PSEG still is the provider but I use a different company as a supplier. I was able to get a cheaper rate then PSEG. Good Luck.

I agree with you...reef tanks might not be the only thing that consumes more electricity, It can be outdated appliances as well... I am changing my lights from CFL to Led and take it from there ....
 

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Duke,
If you close your tank, you might see some energy savings, but the surcharge will still be there and is most likely unaffected by your actual electricity usage. So you might not really save much and you wont be able to offset the surcharge anyway. Get at killawatt meter and figure out your usage, before you quit.
 
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