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Good to see a mod came up. Good!!!
The waaahhh thread was close cuz WE post on it. It was after a 5 star thread was deleted. Just like this 1 (which surprise me still up). And obviously was close by a mod. Why wasnt deleted??? Perhaps cuz it was created by a mod?? Why last nite threads were deleted?? There was nothing in it that violated the sites rules. So yeah mods take thing however they want. Not really as per rules.
I would have respected more if the waaahhh thread was DELETED too since the post were about the same.
 

ocholoco

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wow

Well i Thank you guys for standing up, If maybe this is a thread that will be read by Josh then i would also like to throw my 2 cents in, Ive also had my run ins with the mods, some do a great job but most are just straight up not profesionals about it. Instead of starting a post here i have drifted away from the site a bit just because of the politics of it. I should be able to express myself on how i deal with ich, how many fish i keep in my tank, my maintanace schedule with out beign hassled by a mod telling me whats right or wrong. The honest truth is we dont know crap about this hobby we taking animals from the ocean and putting them in a box and pretty much experimenting with them. one thing ive notice is that Mods run around acting like they know it all and unless you are a marine biologist keep your opinions to yourself. thank you very much...
 

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I had a post deleted yesterday where someone was attacking someone pictures saying it didn't look a certain color. I responded that in my experience it is hard to take accurate pictures under water. Now why was that deleted??? Yet other posts that were 'questionable' in the same thread remained?
 

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Why do people think they have a right to "vote" or determine anything?!?! Donating money gives you ZERO rights!
Stop suggesting a vote or election!

Dubs: I believe you (or any member for that matter) are entitled to know why a thread/post was deleted, and I can imagine it is very frustrating to not know why! Perhaps it is to time consuming to do so? Idk, I'm just trying to find possible reasons why we are not told when/why posts/threads are deleted.
Perhaps the justification is, that it breaks/violates an existing rule?
 

Rob&Gab

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OK I will be run Mr because any members Here or the mods that's like me not wanting to go to school because there a bully there he'll no dubs don't live that way would rather go school punch the bully in eye than be afraid

sorry dubs but ive posted some threads like yours im so happy yours is still open. Because word needs to get out about all of this stuff happening.

ive PMed the mods a book of words spent 10 minutes on writing something up and never got a response about it. i think they need to be trained better on how to approach things and learn the way to be a mod.

+1 to i forgot who said it. but there should be a voting thing that goes on who gets to be a mod. Because if you look at it from there side. almost all of them are friends. at least that's what i think. favoritism is a big play on this SITE, ive noticed it allot and heard allot from some of the top people. If they have there eye set out for you its gonna be like that. the politics on this site is a little bit stupid ya think? this is a place where you are suppose to learn.. Not get harassed and bullied cause you dont have the correct sump or adding the wrong fish at the wrong time. sometimes things they say should be kept to them selfs.

the big problem is to get them to respond to the thing that has been taken down, I dont care if it took 5 days cause there busy. i no there is always a mod watching and they all no what is going on. So i at least expect a answer back in a formal fashion and none of this BS beating around the bush. i hope this whole thing works out for the best.

LIKE i said and stated we allllllll need to get together and Speak with the owner JOSH cause i for one dont think he knows the half of whats going on.


if you see on reef2reef, REV the owner conversates with every person has a facebook for his site, Gets to know everyone. On here all you get is fighting DRAMA BUllishh... like if i wanted that i would go yell in the street and look like a fooll.. i think the mods and the owner need to get to know the people that are joining the site. instead of someone posting a dang ID thread no one answering it for days apon out.


why do you think that? cause no one likes this site cause of what goes on here. People are spending there time on ReefCentral and Reef2reef cause its more alive and nice people to talk to and no drama and beating around the bush and if you have a question they will answer you. if you get an infraction you get a answer of why it was done with the proof of how it happened.

i hope this can stop because ive met allot of nice people on here and made some friends over the time. THose who dont like me or what not can beat it. for the mods, you need to step up.. put your 2cents in to this on why you think your right for what you have been doing..

MODS i no it is hard on you guys cause your like the fish police. But just be civil about what your doing and take control and do the right thing when you give someone an infraction with the correct evidence , we reefers are not trying to bust your chops as you may think. we are just trying to get some correct answers.


im not gonna ramble on and on cause ill start making no sense. But this should come into effect, if this thread gets deleted or closed this is crazy and dont no what other measures to take instead of just flat out leaving the site. OUR WORD SHOULD COUNT.

i no i am not a supporter but the only reason why i have not given any money to this site is cause this is how i feel maybe when it gets cleaned up i will put money into being a supporter.



-Rob.
 

Juggernot55

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@cheifmcfuzz thank you for at least posting on the thread we do understand that people writing threatening messages is not cool at all. All were trying to do is figure some sort of system where people can know why there stuff is getting deleted and what rules did they break for it to get deleted.

I completely agree why wasnt the waaa thread deleted if basically It had the same posts as our threads that were deleted.
Why did someone take time to close it and post its closed temporarily and couldnt use that same amount of time to address the issue at hand?
Were not trying to renegade against the mods. Dont look at us like that were just trying to resolve an issue that myself and many fellow reefers are experiencing. Ultimately all we want is a happy MR where we dont feel excluded.
 

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Kres I wouldn't mind that to be honest

Ocholoco bro u know how I get down no one's going to keep my mouth shut and make me feel afraid to speak the truth around here that not how I live or reef this been Going on for a while and I had enough
 
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Why do people think they have a right to "vote" or determine anything?!?! Donating money gives you ZERO rights!
Stop suggesting a vote or election!

Dubs: I believe you (or any member for that matter) are entitled to know why a thread/post was deleted, and I can imagine it is very frustrating to not know why! Perhaps it is to time consuming to do so? Idk, I'm just trying to find possible reasons why we are not told when/why posts/threads are deleted.
Perhaps the justification is, that it breaks/violates an existing rule?

Really !!! It's called the 15th amendment ...
And relax it was only an opinion no need to get nuts
 

d5332

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Guys, posts get deleted because it violates some kind of rule whether written or concacted from thin air.

The boards are for profit and becoming a moderator must come with some sort of compensation therefore all interests must be protected because at the end of the day its for profit.

At the end of the day it's just a hobby for you and I and a busines/job for them.

In the words of Dory "just keep swimming" and dont mind the jelly fish
 

Sharkbait420

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Good to know I am not the only one. Sometimes I don't agree but understand and other times I just think why. Only time it really bothered me is when the importance of captive breed fish is being covered up. I think the mods are fine. I will give them a B overall. KathyC gets an A+ as an individual but she does get delete happy sometimes. Here are some of my examples.

I got a infraction and delete because I offered my fish to another member to breed.

Then I got a second infraction and delete for saying I am sorry for those who were offended by my offer.

Got another infraction deletion because I said stores should promote captive breed fish instead of wild caught. In my infraction notice it said "If you're seriously against any fish removal from the ocean, you're probably in the wrong hobby, and on the wrong forum!"

Comment on another delete "Why are you dredging up posts that are more than 6 months old..just because they mention sharks?
Your interests might be better served on a website that caters to people who have/keep sharks.
We have very few members with them here."
 
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Rob&Gab

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In the words of Dory "just keep swimming" and dont mind the jelly fish



once you get stung tho its a whole new ball game. Thats what we are trying to put out there that the mods are stinging us for a reason but not giving it to us.

thats like your boss telling you your fired and not telling you the reason behind it. He has to give you a reason to fire you.
 

Juggernot55

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@rookie07 thats why I had mentioned, I wouldnt paying a membership fee.
Just because we dont pay, doesnt mean we cant speak up and try to improve the site we all love.
Why would there be an issue with just making a suggestion about voting in Mods?
 

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sorry dubs but ive posted some threads like yours im so happy yours is still open. Because word needs to get out about all of this stuff happening.

ive PMed the mods a book of words spent 10 minutes on writing something up and never got a response about it. i think they need to be trained better on how to approach things and learn the way to be a mod.

+1 to i forgot who said it. but there should be a voting thing that goes on who gets to be a mod. Because if you look at it from there side. almost all of them are friends. at least that's what i think. favoritism is a big play on this SITE, ive noticed it allot and heard allot from some of the top people. If they have there eye set out for you its gonna be like that. the politics on this site is a little bit stupid ya think? this is a place where you are suppose to learn.. Not get harassed and bullied cause you dont have the correct sump or adding the wrong fish at the wrong time. sometimes things they say should be kept to them selfs.

the big problem is to get them to respond to the thing that has been taken down, I dont care if it took 5 days cause there busy. i no there is always a mod watching and they all no what is going on. So i at least expect a answer back in a formal fashion and none of this BS beating around the bush. i hope this whole thing works out for the best.

LIKE i said and stated we allllllll need to get together and Speak with the owner JOSH cause i for one dont think he knows the half of whats going on.


if you see on reef2reef, REV the owner conversates with every person has a facebook for his site, Gets to know everyone. On here all you get is fighting DRAMA BUllishh... like if i wanted that i would go yell in the street and look like a fooll.. i think the mods and the owner need to get to know the people that are joining the site. instead of someone posting a dang ID thread no one answering it for days apon out.


why do you think that? cause no one likes this site cause of what goes on here. People are spending there time on ReefCentral and Reef2reef cause its more alive and nice people to talk to and no drama and beating around the bush and if you have a question they will answer you. if you get an infraction you get a answer of why it was done with the proof of how it happened.

i hope this can stop because ive met allot of nice people on here and made some friends over the time. THose who dont like me or what not can beat it. for the mods, you need to step up.. put your 2cents in to this on why you think your right for what you have been doing..

MODS i no it is hard on you guys cause your like the fish police. But just be civil about what your doing and take control and do the right thing when you give someone an infraction with the correct evidence , we reefers are not trying to bust your chops as you may think. we are just trying to get some correct answers.


im not gonna ramble on and on cause ill start making no sense. But this should come into effect, if this thread gets deleted or closed this is crazy and dont no what other measures to take instead of just flat out leaving the site. OUR WORD SHOULD COUNT.

i no i am not a supporter but the only reason why i have not given any money to this site is cause this is how i feel maybe when it gets cleaned up i will put money into being a supporter.



-Rob.
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You visit the site and if you buy from vendors (that presumably pay a fee) here, you are a supporter of the site. Just because you have not directly donated, doesn't mean that the site does not benefit from your traffic.
 

Rob&Gab

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Good to know I am not the only one. Sometimes I don't agree but understand and other times I just think why. Only time it really bothered me is when the importance of captive breed fish is being covered up. I think the mods are fine. I will give them a B overall. KathyC gets an A+ as an individual but she does get delete happy sometimes. Here are some of my examples.

I got a infraction and delete because I offered my fish to another member to breed.

Then I got a second infraction and delete for saying I am sorry for those who were offended by my offer.

Got another infraction deletion because I said stores should promote captive breed fish instead of wild caught. In my infraction notice it said "If you're seriously against any fish removal from the ocean, you're probably in the wrong hobby, and on the wrong forum!"

Comment on another delete "Why are you dredging up posts that are more than 6 months old..just because they mention sharks?
Your interests might be better served on a website that caters to people who have/keep sharks.
We have very few members with them here."


wow! thats soooooooooo notttt cool. thats singling you out to the fullest extent i would of blown my top if they said that too me being nice or not they were plain our rude in how they said that.
 

Rob&Gab

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You visit the site and if you buy from vendors (that presumably pay a fee) here, you are a supporter of the site. Just because you have not directly donated, doesn't mean that the site does not benefit from your traffic.

Thank you for saying that, i did not think of it that way. i love this site dont get me wrong. just there is too much that goes on with the mods, i like almost all the vendors here and give them my support all the time when i can make a visit to them or get to talk to them online. or how ever.

Thank you for putting it that way as i did not think of it that way. much appreciated
 
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Only suggestions I can give is if you have a problem/question with someone / something pm a mod civilly, and use the report links. A lot of moderation comes about due to members reporting things. Yes your peers give people up. Use the report links seriously and not for "vengeance" as some like to do. Follow the rules and if you are "moderated" don't have a cow, be civil and ask why and accept the answers you are given. Simply put don't make threats against people who are working night and day to help keep order to the site. Don't act like a baby, act like a mature adult. For some it is a stretch but when someone responding to me acts mature and level headed they get a likewise response. On the other hand once things deteriorate the responses reflect the nature of the conversation.

And yes all major decisions are discussed amongst all of the mods and the decision represents the entire moderating staff. We are all on the same page.
 
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