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It is statements like this that make me not respect this method. Regardless of how effective it may be I would never advocate putting several fish into a small space. Futhermore, it makes any company who advocates this seem like they are just trying to make a quick buck from the inexperienced newcomers to the hobby, without a care for the longterm well-being of the animals.Snake USMC":3kn0busw said:My four fish have been in the same bucket for 4 years.
skylab1":3kn0busw" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">skylab1":3kn0busw said:Well, I am puzzled. How could you possiblely know the fish isn't happy and healthy in my tank?
Yes, you are right, but normally there is one fish per container, not 4 of different species. Also, how long do those fish remain there? A couple days? A week max? I doubt they would survive in that situation long term, which is what we are addressing. Also, in this situation the container holding a fish may be small, but the water volume in the system is enormous. In the system in this post there are only 5 gallons of water. Regardless of the physical space issue for the inhabitants, there is the pollution/contamination issue of such a small water volume. I realize this proposed system would take care of the normal waste and byproducts, as well as keeping essential elements in check. But what about introduction of disease, parasites, copper, or any other chemical pollutant? Even a small pollutant can wipe such a small tank in an instant, and in any normal situation you may be losing one or two fish...in this system you are doubling the potential loss. In reef keeping more does not always equal better.Snake USMC":3kn0busw said:If you have been to a fish holding facility, you will see very cramped fish
do you mean the stages? i.e. ammonia -> nitrite -> nitrate?Snake USMC":143hz3ql said:What people do not understand, is the cycle both of them are the same in saltwater, fresh water, brackish water, wast water treatment plants, drinking water, Farming, pig farming, etc. There is no difference and because of that if it works on one it will work on all others.
sure, if you like i'll shoot you an email. but honestly, i have no specialization in it. i'm only the sub-contractor and what i do is able to be done by 5~6 other companies in my state alone. my clients are the ones with the specialty, i just learn what they do to better understand/service them.Snake USMC":143hz3ql said:rcsheng If you tell me more about your company I believe our company can do a joint venture with you on other enviromental issues
Meloco14":39zst06t said:. But what about introduction of disease, parasites, copper, or any other chemical pollutant? Even a small pollutant can wipe such a small tank in an instant, and in any normal situation you may be losing one or two fish...in this system you are doubling the potential loss.
skylab1":3v7ybk56 said:Matt_Wandell":3v7ybk56 said:Really? Your pictures.
First of all, the pic was taken right after I've move the rock to box the filter into where I wanted to be. Since I have no sand at the bottom, the filter is keep moving around, until I can get two small LR to block the filter I have keep moving the mushroom rock. You know when you move the coral they tend to shrink or close up, next time I take the picture before I move the rock so the mushrooms are all open for the camera.
BTW, I though you were talking about the coral in the big tank no the 5 gallon.
oh, ok. i thought it was just a generic open letter to all. btw "RC" are my first and middle initials, "sheng" is my last name. :wink:skylab1":b1cllj65 said:Snake USMC":b1cllj65 said:Dear Reefkeeper,
I think this reply is for you rcsheng
knucklehead":216cjfc1 said:I am jumping in at this late stage of the game to ask a couple of questions also.
How much does all of this cost, is it a one time outlay for the carbon and bacteria or is this something that must be renewed constantly?
Cause I am going on 2 years now with the only additives to my tank being water, salt, and bionic when I was dosing it, I quit a year ago.
So, if you are going to replace my live rock, sand, sump and all with some carbon and a bunch of bacteria I would at least like to hear that its only a one time outlay of money.
Know what I mean?