Love, lust, and relationships

[shrimpluva]

not that i would know (as i have not had sex before marriage) but i can imagine sex being exciting as long as you are with different partners simply because it is always new and different and exciting. But once it is always with the same person for the rest of your life (not including the office intern) then it can get less exciting, and at that point you better have something else to your relationship to keep it together. If you do have a positive relationship, you are also more likely to trust each other more and feel more comfortable trying different things to keep things spicy. In high school perhaps giving a girl a kiss on her neck may have been the most exciting thing, go out with a girl for a year, and i can bet it will take a lot more than a kiss on her neck for you to "rise to the occassion." the problem is that there comes a point where you can no longer "elevate" (pun intended) yourself to the next level because you have already done everything with that person.

Take grandparents for example, they are not together because of the sex, their relationship is at that point based on other things (perhaps their kids and grandkids which are all a result of the original deed?)

Very well said- just proves my point that there has to be something more then sex to keep you together

 

[shrimpluva]

i would have to agree with J. the day i met one of my girlfriends from a long term relationship things got pretty hot....we were young what can i say.we did the nasty before the week was over (i met her at the beginning of the week, lol).i love this woman, she is now my wife and mother of my 1.5 daughters.i plan on spending the rest of my life with her.

some might say a girl isn't wify material if she gives it up fast, but i don't like double standards.i like to think of myself as a good catch, and the fact that i'm willing to have sex before we get to know each other more in depth doesn't take away from what i may have to offer.definitely didn't take away from what my wife has to offer.

just wanted to throw that in.

btw 10 billion is a sh!+ !0ad of $$$. that's only the supposed profit from one company, i'm sure it's alot more.oh well, we are already on the topic of sex.....everybody drop your pants bend over and continue to get pumped by the gas companies.....lol

I am glad it worked out for you- maybe you are an exception to my rule-good luck with the baby

 

[shrimpluva]

somewhat every true ,,Let me ask you guys and girls ,,
you are in love with your mate ,but the sex sux.everytime you think you are going to have good sex ,but it just sux ,are you going to stay or walk away?
How do you spend the rest of your life loving someone and have bad sex ,
Yes Loving and being loved is one of the best feelings ,but so iis sex ,so what do you ,,,,

AL ,stated that 90% is money ,,,i agree with that more then sex ,but that where cheating comes in ,,,Rich guys who only think about making money are not home to have sex or make love to wifey ,so wifey gos elsewhere ,,and same for the man ,,if the women sux in bed ,then he is onthe cheating game ,so both are ture ,but money plays more of a roll i think ,,,

Thinking about guys ,,,,Womens piont of view ,,Big Penis ,,or Big bankaccount ,ask which one she want ,, :scratchch

like alrha said how bad can sex be for a guy? its true a girl has more to be concerned about bad sex, like the mans size and his performance. A guy always climaxes naturally before a girl does, and sometimes not at all so whats the problem for you. I would rather have a guy personally well endowed then financially as long as we are stable. What is that you think makes a girl bad in bed? I can tell you what i think makes a guy bad, small in size, quick in time, and selfish.

 

[spykes]

ah well i got problems with this subject as well, self esteem is something i lack, but then again so is the money and fun part. Then again i should concentrate in school at my age, having a girl or a career is kind of a hard choce heh.

 

[shrimpluva]

good save.
shrimpy (you dont mind if i call you shrimpy, do you?), i cant imagine someone calling up "yes, can i please have an appointment with Dr. Shrimpy?"

lol you can call me anything u want- just dont call me late for dinner

 

[shrimpluva]

that's Dr. Shrimpluva to you, lol

by the way shrimpluva, don't take any one too seriously when they are posting in the nudibar / our lounge.

it's ok im having fun with this enjoying these diverse opinions

 

[212jay]

somewhat every true ,,Let me ask you guys and girls ,,
you are in love with your mate ,but the sex sux.everytime you think you are going to have good sex ,but it just sux ,are you going to stay or walk away?
How do you spend the rest of your life loving someone and have bad sex ,
Yes Loving and being loved is one of the best feelings ,but so iis sex ,so what do you ,,,,

That's where communication comes into play. If you don't have that you don't have anything. IMO



AL ,stated that 90% is money ,,,i agree with that more then sex ,but that where cheating comes in ,,,Rich guys who only think about making money are not home to have sex or make love to wifey ,so wifey gos elsewhere ,,and same for the man ,,if the women sux in bed ,then he is onthe cheating game ,so both are ture ,but money plays more of a roll i think ,,,

Thinking about guys ,,,,Womens piont of view ,,Big Penis ,,or Big bankaccount ,ask which one she want ,, :scratchch

like alrha said how bad can sex be for a guy? its true a girl has more to be concerned about bad sex, like the mans size and his performance. A guy always climaxes naturally before a girl does, and sometimes not at all so whats the problem for you. I would rather have a guy personally well endowed then financially as long as we are stable. What is that you think makes a girl bad in bed? I can tell you what i think makes a guy bad, small in size, quick in time, and selfish.

 

[jhale]

Jay what's up

 

[212jay]

Jay what's up

What's Up J, How's everything?

 

[jhale]

What's Up J, How's everything?

good, good. just enjoying this great thread.

 

[212jay]

good, good. just enjoying this great thread.

Oh Ya...Two of my favorite things REEFING and SEX. Not really in that order. hehe

 

[DEEPWATER]

What is that you think makes a girl bad in bed? .

Its not if you are bad in sex or not ,its if you know what you are doing ,where touch ,lick ,nibble ,etc at the right moment ,,the actually intercousre is not the only thing in sex tht i consider sex
I dont like the boom boom boom ,more like the ahh ahh ahh ,,,lol



It like music ,,if you cant dance you cant dance ,
same with sex ,,if you dont know how to satisfy a women/man ,then you just dont ,

 

[shrimpluva]

Its not if you are bad in sex or not ,its if you know what you are doing ,where touch ,lick ,nibble ,etc at the right moment ,,the actually intercousre is not the only thing in sex tht i consider sex
I dont like the boom boom boom ,more like the ahh ahh ahh ,,,lol



It like music ,,if you cant dance you cant dance ,
same with sex ,,if you dont know how to satisfy a women/man ,then you just dont ,

so then do you consider yourself a good "dancer"

 

[212jay]

Its not if you are bad in sex or not ,its if you know what you are doing ,where touch ,lick ,nibble ,etc at the right moment ,,the actually intercousre is not the only thing in sex tht i consider sex
I dont like the boom boom boom ,more like the ahh ahh ahh ,,,lol



It like music ,,if you cant dance you cant dance ,
same with sex ,,if you dont know how to satisfy a women/man ,then you just dont ,

You can always learn how to dance if you have a good teacher.

 

[shrimpluva]

You can always learn how to dance if you have a good teacher.

true that

 

[DEEPWATER]

You can always learn how to dance if you have a good teacher.

Well that depend if you are a good learner ,,,some ppl could learn to dance and some cant ,that is why some ppl are good in keeping a reef tank ,and some just sux ,we could teach,say ,write or what ever ,if they are not learning ,they are not learning!!!

 

[DEEPWATER]

so then do you consider yourself a good "dancer"

:kiss:

 

[Dave ESPI]

I'm afraid after reading a few pages in this thread..........

if you only knew what I do and am into for kicks... you all would be either appauled, or jealous lill horny net geeks drooling for a piece of my bdsm loving leather and latex/ high heel sexy slave girlfriend(s).....


*yes Plural = girlfriend(s) ( more than one) :p

 

[shrimpluva]

:kiss:

who is that kiss for

 

[bad coffee]

Wow. This thread took off while I was at work the last couple o days. (I hate when we don't have internet at the theater)

Okay, here is my take on the whole thing:

I don't believe that there should be a double standard about sex. Human beings are sexual creatures (one of the few species on this big rock that actually have sex for more than procreation) So if there's the right energy and it's not against your religion, go for it. On the first date. During the first date. Before the date in the bathroom at a bar you just met in, even before you know their last name. If that lightning-bolt-attraction is there, and both people are willing, go for it. Why should the woman be called cheap/fast/slutty when it takes 2 to do the deed? The guy is at just as much fault.

The ex I still love to this day(yeah you can call it true love), I knew I loved her the first morning we woke up together. and yes, we did meet the night before. She got married last month. I still keep in touch with her, more than 10 years after we broke up.

However, it wasn't the best sex I ever had. The best sex I had WAS with a woman I met at a bar and ended up back at her place that night. We had amazing sex, but a crappy relationship. So the fact that we had great sex didn't save the relationship.

And I don't think sex is more than 50% of a relationship. There's Trust, comapatablity, respect, interests (both the ones you both enjoy together and the ones you seperately enjoy) So sex can save or hinder a relationship. But I don't think it's top on the list, nor is it on the bottom.

Dr. Shrimpy, why do you think that you wouldn't/shouldn't marry someone you hook up with on the first date? Do you think waiting has much to do with whether a relationship works or not? Have you ever hooked up on a first date, when you know this person isn't the 'one' just to have some fun?

Dave, you forgot the other option when you said appauled or jealous. Some of us don't really give a **** about your present kink!

BC