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jhale

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Jesse and Rich, I got the foam to be more wet, but the bubble column stays the same size no matter what I do.
When the skimmer was working yesterday the thick bubbles reached to the bottom, today just half way, what changed?
 

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Well if you can get it to overflow than just give it time. I was thinking the silencer was on too tight and then it wouldn't matter what you were doing with the c-clamp.My bubbles only go all the way to the bottom when I do a large water change or when I first broke it in. I would just be more concerned about getting the bubbles up the neck more. Jesse
 

jhale

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actually the silencer was on too tight, when I loosened it the cup overflowed in a few seconds.

now it looks like this,

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that's a few minutes worth.
 

jhale

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elosusa said:
Was there much noise difference when you backed the silencer off?

no you can't hear anything over the water falling into the sump, lol.

actually it sounds like a pleasant little stream :)

I have since been able to dial in the skimmer so I have a solid neck of tiny bubbles that are breaking right at the top of the riser tube. I can't get a good shot of it at night, the bubbles in the neck end up looking like a white mass. I'll have to wait for the morning to get a decent shot.

Paul, I'll take a shot at explaining the difference, then you will have to figure out why it's so efficient and tell me.

first this skimmer has an inner tube and an outer tube. water and air mix and shoot straight down into the inner tube. there is about a 1/2' gap between the two at the bottom. water exits the tube at the bottom and rises up between the inner tube and outer tube. the foam in the meantime rises up the top of the inner tube and enters the collection cup in a thick and orderly column of the smallest bubbles I've seen yet in a skimmer.
by increasing and decreasing the air going through the venturi the level of foam is controlled. if you wanted to skim wet this would be the skimmer to do it with. the level of control over the thickness of foam is incredible.
I hope this describes it well enough.
 

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Kimoyo,
I'll tell you things that are different from my experience and maybe jonathan will add anything that he has noticed.
1. The build quality. That is the first thing that you will notice. Jonathans pics are great to see the detail that is put into the design and materials used on these units.
2. Our patented Top Down Injection. With this design you can use any pump and get results. We use eheim pumps but anything will work. This design is very effective and doesn't require a HUGE pump like most venturis in order to work properly. Also if you compare it to a needlewheel the repair or replacement cost is drastically reduced. Besides the cost compared to a needlewheel eheim, it is running as it is intended. I think this is key. When you modify an impeller you reduce the performance of that pump to pump water. You are asking the pump to both, pump water and chop bubbles in a needlewheel setup and that is not the case in this skimmer ( or any venturi for that matter).
3. The size. If you look at jonathans set up you can see that he needed a skimmer that could fit in a tight spot and still be rated for a relatively large tank. I went from a huge needlewheel to the NS and it was nice having the extra room to work without sacrificing any performance. You can also see that the depth doesn't matter much as long as it is not covering the outlet for the water you are fine.
4. Ease of use. You basically have one adjustment and that is a simple clamp to regulate the air. We are big on ease of use and this was key in the desing of this skimmer.
5. Other things. The ability to completely disassemble for easy cleaning, skimmer cup doesn't need to be locked on, pump can be placed in 3 different locations, it's quiet.
There is more I am probably missing but that is what I thought of at the moment. I have used other skimmers and there are some good ones out there and it comes down to what you want. I am a person who is into small details, build quailty, performance and reliability and this skimmer has all of that, but there are others that do, as well. Hope that helps. Jesse
 

jackson6745

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I got my DAS skimmer, not as expected though. It had a few cracks from shipping and also the item was not as described. It was sold as a 3 week old skimmer. Both pumps were calcified and did not work when plugged in, also the pump connections to the acrylic were siliconed, and they leak!!! To top it off this guy is giving me a hard time returning it.

If this guys does not refund the skimmer and pay for the shipping to return it, what do you think I should do?

This is why I hate buying used $hit:grumpy:
 

ReefDriven

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jackson6745 said:
I got my DAS skimmer, not as expected though. It had a few cracks from shipping and also the item was not as described. It was sold as a 3 week old skimmer. Both pumps were calcified and did not work when plugged in, also the pump connections to the acrylic were siliconed, and they leak!!! To top it off this guy is giving me a hard time returning it.

If this guys does not refund the skimmer and pay for the shipping to return it, what do you think I should do?

This is why I hate buying used $hit:grumpy:
Was the package insured?
 

jackson6745

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It is insured but since it was shipped by the post office a claim cannot be made for 21 days. In a situation like this what is the right thing to do? Do I have to wait 21 days to get my money back?
 

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