dizzy":2a12luq8 said:
Back 20 years ago the only sizable store there was Harp's Pets, but then that was 20 years ago.
Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets
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Thanks Mitch. I try to look in once and awhile but generally don't have anything new to add to the topics.
Yes Harp's is still in business but not the quality it once was. Haven't kept up with the changes in the hobby. They still use tap water in their systems and give out advise from 20 years ago.
As far as 104th st goes I have made some changes on who I buy from in the past year and may change some others. Same goes for drygoods wholesalers and manufacturers who allow etailers to whore their products to the public at wholesale prices.
Yes Harp's is still in business but not the quality it once was. Haven't kept up with the changes in the hobby. They still use tap water in their systems and give out advise from 20 years ago.
As far as 104th st goes I have made some changes on who I buy from in the past year and may change some others. Same goes for drygoods wholesalers and manufacturers who allow etailers to whore their products to the public at wholesale prices.
dizzy":2nraqys6 said:
I must agree that most retailers... in the midwest to east coast have been getting it hard for awhile. Many of my clients (small pet stores) in said area have expressed major problems dealing with "left coast" supply. Along with the ease of communication, transportation has offered most mid west/east coast a better option for bringing in thier own supply and leaving the left coasters out of the "chain" of custody. Doing this causes trends of lower price and better quality. Domestic flights are quite easy compared to international though. F&W and Customs can take you for quite a ride.
clarionreef
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Why thank you Gresham!
A few California wholesalers exposed and defined most of what is known of the most nefarious sides of our trade.
The exposes in other trades often come from the public or the press.
In our case, the public and the press have done virtually nothing.
Evidence of values and the call to reform has been largely a left-coast commercial one and largely ignored.
Steve
A few California wholesalers exposed and defined most of what is known of the most nefarious sides of our trade.
The exposes in other trades often come from the public or the press.
In our case, the public and the press have done virtually nothing.
Evidence of values and the call to reform has been largely a left-coast commercial one and largely ignored.
Steve
GreshamH":2v3ngpvz said:
Well make up your mind there. Do those in california care nor not care?
Let me know when you have made up your mind
Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets
[email protected]
clarionreef
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- San Francisco
Wayne,
We have harbored the best and the worst.
Gresham is still right.
Steve
We have harbored the best and the worst.
Gresham is still right.
Steve
Hey! I grew up in California too Naesco........
Does that place me in the "Best" or "Worse" catagory by default?
I claim that man made global warming is silly and that a Cyanide use problem by pet fish collectors is also not supported by any real scientific data.
But in contrast , Unlike most reeformer aquarium store owners...I have no fish from the Philippines in my store, hundreds of eco friendly farmed clams , hundreds of farmed SPS corals and hundreds of pounds of concrete farmed live rock..
Kinda makes me evil and a saint at the same time.
If you were in charge of the pearly jawfish gates , which would it be ?
Thumbs up or thumbs down?
Does that place me in the "Best" or "Worse" catagory by default?
I claim that man made global warming is silly and that a Cyanide use problem by pet fish collectors is also not supported by any real scientific data.
But in contrast , Unlike most reeformer aquarium store owners...I have no fish from the Philippines in my store, hundreds of eco friendly farmed clams , hundreds of farmed SPS corals and hundreds of pounds of concrete farmed live rock..
Kinda makes me evil and a saint at the same time.
If you were in charge of the pearly jawfish gates , which would it be ?
Thumbs up or thumbs down?
cortez marine":1g50uc4y said:
I like the ocean, the mountains, and the weather in California. The funny thing about the Bay area is that people who think they are tolerant are actually intolerant. More thought policing there than any place I've ever been. But there are caring people. I'm just not sure they care more.
PS
You guys know how I like to make predictions. I have another. California will be the first state to lose its freedom and they will do it to themselves.
Mitch
Bebo77":3q2ctp3y said:
there outta be a law for a-holes like this to prevent them from keeping ANY animal :roll:
listen here, bubbeleh-you do realize what you said in the above quoted statement? it's fools like you that are 80% responsible for over collection and cyanide methods in the first place!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
what a tool-hey-if one of your kids gets hit by a car, no biggie-just have another! :idea:
Bebo77":11c3p5lo said:
BoBo-as someone who works for a large wholesaler, and worked for a much smaller one for a short time-you are completely clueless-both about the economics of the wholesale industry, what losses/profits are involved, and how stock is cared for
i'll also bet that you're one of those hobbyists i've kicked out of retail stores that keep buying the same fish 3-4 times a year because you can't keep 'em alive to begin with anyway
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