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No, ticks and fleas I don't typically worry about unless I'm taking hiking or light camping trips. If I do, I hate to say it but it's works, I use a product called Bronco. For deworming I inject them with Noromectin or an oral doseage of pyrantel pamoale.

Is there a benefit to it that I'm unaware of? Sounds fairly homeopathic which is a plus but is it?
 

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Yeah is supposed to help with almost everything believe it or not- fly control,coat, here's a link my breeder gave me, she uses it and noticed a great difference overall in all of their coats and such:


http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/buy_diatomaceous_earth.html

You can read the testimonials of people also- a lot of dairy farmers have been using it for years to control flies. It will hold about any parasites away kill any that come in contact with it in 72 hours they say.

The best part is that it's a natural dewormer so no need for chemicals which is nice
 
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If you don't have someone to inject your pups with the series of shots, I can get them for you if you're comfortable giving them their Galaxy 5. It's been a while since I've had to do it but I can save u quite a bit of money because you have to do it every other week until they're 16 weeks I think.

the shot is for parvo, distemper,adenovirus type 1 and type 2 an, parainfluenza
 
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I use Solid Gold Seameal which is a basically an overall health supplement. I checked out the link and is a great sounding supplement/antiparasitic but I have to look in to what "silica" is. Doesn't sound okay to me but I haven't done research.

I feed Abady High Stress and Competition Granulated Formula
Seameal
some sort of raw meat
daily vitamin
sometimes Omega3 Oil

........and when I'm prepping him for competition and I seriously up his daily calorie consumption and I'll also supplement with K-9 Puppy Gold, Amino Acids and an Electrolyte powder.
 
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K-9 PuppyGold, Raw meat and Abady Puppy formula (for midsize dogs) is my favorite combination for puppies.

My pups were the healthiest that I've ever seen with that combo and my family has been feeding that combo for about a decade but for about 2 decades we've been using Abady Grandulated Forumlas and Raw Meats.

Definitely a considerable difference with K-9 PuppyGold.
 

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This is what I'll be feeding them as pups, has all great ingredients and no beet pulp which is one of the main causes of the black staining running down fromt heir eyes in the lighter color dogs:

puppyformula_page.jpg
 
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You beef him up big time lol


LOL, I guess. But I did so much research over the years and found out what was in kibbles and I couldn't do it. I didn't want to touch it let alone feed it to my dog.

The thing about kibbles, aside from the fact that they're poison (for the most part), is that all of the ingredients are cooked at 1 temperature which pretty much fries the ingredients that shouldn't be heated to those temps. Granulated formulas are basically less processed and pretty much what kibble is before it gets formed into kibbles but what is different is that each ingredient is cooked at it's optimal temperature as to preserve the most amount of ingredients as possible.

Most kibbles are 300-400 calories per cup and the formula that I use is between 800 and 1200 (been a while since I've checked but it somewhere in that range).

So I get to feed them less and they get more out of it and the best part is that less waste comes out of them =)

All dogs need raw meat for better overall health so why skimp on a healthier meal for your dog when that could mean possibly having to pay serious vet bills down the road because of a crappy diet?

Raw is sooooooooo easy for them to digest and is really easy on their systems.

I can't tell u how healty all of the dogs in my entire family are because of it. We've never put down a dog due to a health issue. I put one down because it was unstable tho.
 
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I don't like that it has tomato pumace in it. They use that to stiffen the stool. A well balanced meal doesn't need a miracle ingredient to stiffen stool. They know, that we know, that a firm stool looks like a healthy one so they cheat.

I can't see the benefit of putting potatoes in dog food other than as a filler. If it were Sweet potato, then at least it would be an anti-oxidant.

Fat:protein ration is off IMO. I like them much closer together.

@ 342 calories per cup, you'll be feeding your dogs rediculous amounts of food and I'm pretty sure that they'll deficate every single time u bring them outside and huge piles of it.

Egg product should like "egg shells" to me
 
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I've been using their formulas for 24 years. They were pretty much the first ones to seperate from the garbage that Eukanuba, Science Diet, Iams, Purina, Pedigree, BilJak, Diamond and so many others were putting out.

I'd have to research the food you're pointing out but the red flags are somewhat apparent imo.

Better foods won't have tomato pumace and the beet pulp that you pointed it is another red flag for me that companies use the same as tomato pumace. I know it's not in this product tho.

This would be my recommendation:

http://www.doggiefood.com/abadyelevatedlevelstress.html
 
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Abady is also designed to be fed with or without raw meats. They also have a frozen BARF (biologically appropriate raw food) formula.

If I told you what my dogs go thru for a stupid $0.50 ribbon u may be a bit more open to thinking about it. lol

in all honesty, they do it cause they love the challange of the workout and I do it for the bond with my dog

8 weeks total:

weeks 1-2:
Just have fun with them. Take 'em to a lake and throw a stick in for hours and let them fish it out. Have them zip around after a laser pointer for hours. Do what ever u can to let them have fun for long periods of time that get to be increasingly greater with everyday that passes and get their cardio and start to get their muscles loose.

By week three.........

Started him off walking 3 miles a day on day one and everyday up it an extra mile or so;

Come home, get him started on his treadmill for 8 minutes and everyday up him a few more minutes and never let him get tired before you stop. Always take him off before he gives up so he feels like you short changed him having fun. Everyday that you go to pull him off, he'll push harder so you don't take him off because he's having so much fun

After a run, it's outside to play some tug-o-war his way. (any other way will rip by arm off after 10 minutes so this way is better)... under my tall deck I have a garage door spring that hangs with a tug-o-war rope that hangs on it.... start him off at 10 minutes on day one and pull him off before he gets tired....

Everyday increase the work out....

start off with a deep tissue massage because u need to protect his muscles because it's just going to get tougher plus you don't want him to digest properly so it's best to cool him down first.

After every workout increase his amount of food so his reward is something that he looks forward to and because he will need more calories to keep this up

At week 4 we're at 15 miles per day hand walking, 1.5 hours on the treadmill and 1.25 hours on the tug-o-war rope and he never touches the ground and this goes on until week eight. and then a few days later is competition time....

Amino acids keep him hydrated as do electrolytes
High calorie intake is crucial to build muscle tissue and keep up with his calorie consumption

I read that this is how they would get them in great shape and I didn't believe it so a few friends and I decided to put our dogs to the test and not only did they love it, but if I was too lazy or beat up one day and tried to stay in, my dog would go nuts and he is otherwise a couch potato. He'd bark by the door or stand on the treadmill and try to run but it wouldn't move because he wasn't strapped in. lol absolute nutcase when I want him to be.

I dunno too many breeds that have that kind of heart.
 
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Yeah Sandi HATES foods that use beet pulp. Shes a bit open to certainfillers like the ones in the food I posted.

thanks for that link

No problem, it's my pleasure. It was years before I understood a lot of what goes into a dog food. I was a kid when my parents started using it and I didn't know anything about it or how incredible it was and years later when I was on my own and got my first dog I started looking into the best foods and really quickly I learned how bad most of them are.
 
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another pup that I lost at 3 months somehow found a sewing needle that had thread on it and swallowed it......

I paid for all the surgeries even tho my vet told me it was slim:none odds but I did it anyway.

He made it thru the first surgery and the vet didn't think he'd do that... he had septic infection because his intestines reptured and it leaked sewage into his body...

They took out 6 secitons of his intestine that day...

He came home for about a week... and on New year's eve I saw he wasn't doing well and brought him back...

Again the vet told me it wasn't good and I didn't care even tho he told me he wouldn't make it outta surgery. And make it out surgery is exactly what my little guy did.

I was okay at that point until the vet told me of all the dogs that he had ever worked on with damage so bad, he had never seen any dog of any breed, of any age fight as hard as mine did to stay alive. At that point I was like a little girl and I'm man enought to admit it lol... but I know it was mostly his breeding that made him such a tough hearted lil bas&)*d but I know a lot of it had to do with him being healthy as hell. JMO that day they took at 3 more pieces of his intestine

RIP lil Havoc

So after that vet had that to say about him as messed up as it was, I knew I was doing the right thing and that little guy knew nothing but K-9 PuppyGold, Abady Elevated Maintenance and Stress and Raw meats.
 
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