Who still gets gas at bp

[MatthewScars]

I dont have any BPs near me, but I wouldnt go to one. Noel is drunk again

 

[JimmyR1rider]

Yes it is 100% BP's fault!!!!!

BOB pretty much all the gas companies are just as safe for your suv as bp gas. I personally use Mobil on the most part, but if I see a Citgo I use them. My truck seems to like it better than any other brand I put in. I think all oil companies have had their mishaps- some way more devistating than others.

I actually blame TransOcean more than anyone on this. This is their second drilling rig to explode and cause a major leak in the gulf alone, nevermind other places in the world. The last one was in 1979 and was in 200 ft of water instead of 5000. It was caused by the blowout preventor valve- same as this one. It leaked for 9 months and EVERY SINGLE METHOD they used back then was identical to what theyre trying now, no advances on the safety technology by them. They called the operation top hat theyre using now- operation sombrero in 79 top kill, junk shot they used those exact techniques in 79 with different names. So yeah BP is at fault but so is TransOcean...JMO

 

[ming]

Bob i always run either 91 or 93 octane doesnt really matter to me where i get it from, usually from mobil cause it is on way to work. Your not really getting sediment in the gas anyways because of the micron filter on the pump. People avoid the higher octane because it is usually 10-20 cents more a gallon, but when filling your car up it only cost a couple dollars more, the higher octane gas burns off cleaner leaving less deposits in the engine ect.

You're my buddy an all, but I have yet to read that the higher octane burns off cleaner leaving less deposits in the engine. I can show you a list of sites with a quick google search which will tell you the higher octane is to prevent premature combustion which is the cause of knocking. The owners manual will tell you which fuel grade you'll need. Using a higher fuel grade then is recommended is just throwing money away as far as I can tell, unless your engine is knocking.

 

[AlohaTropics]

By boycotting BP stations, all you are doing is killing the owner of the station and his family. People don't understand that yes although the gas comes fom BP, the gas station owner puts their heart and guts into making a living for their families. It's not their fault they are stuck in a supply contract with BP. Besides, BP sells gasoline any gas station that will pay for it. BP stations are not the only ones that use BP Gas.

Think about if NY lotto has a big issue that Causes public controversy. How would you feel as a small business deli owner or card store if then public started throwing rocks at your store because you have a contract with NY Lotto? It's simply not fair to Lynch innocent business owners that are part of collateral damage.


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[beerfish]

It's unfortunate that the gas station owners are caught in the middle, but these are risks you take when you open a business. By boycotting BP, you're sending a message that this is intolerable.

I imagine if you're looking to open a gas station anytime soon, BP isn't the first company you'll look at. Ultimately, as BP stations become scarce, they will suffer.

 

[AlohaTropics]

I agree that it is intolerable what they did in ignorance. But reprocutions is the job of authorities and local protection agencies that should heavily penalize BP. That is what should be sending the message. Chaotic public radicalism towards innocent people caught in a bad situation amounts to Lynch squads and anarchy. If the proper penalties and message is not conveyed to BP, then it is the government that need to be fixed and our anger should be directed towards the governing body that is not doing their job. It does not give the public the power of penalizing whoever they want with disregard to the livelihood of our neighbors and family's welfare.

This is my stance only because I know a BP owner and he's got a mortgage, 2 kids in college and my heart goes out to him right now. It's not his fault yet he is paying dearly for it. Why add to the amount of people suffering from collateral damage? That's like blowing up a school becase there is 1 known Al Queda terrorist in there. Are we to say oh well, it's a shame all those innocents died but as long as we got the bad guy? Come on.


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[Imbarrie]

I dont think BP is using any different technique in the Gulf than the other drilling Companies. I just think they were incredibly unlucky. 100% responsible, but also incredibly unlucky. It could be another gas company just as easily. The drilling techniques have improved yet there spill response has not kept up.
BP has been trying to market themselves as globally aware by giving the impression they are investing in alternative energies. It was a huge smoke screen. That with a blatant lack of regard to safety is insulting.
I really do not want to hurt the individual franchise, but I definitely would not buy gas from them. Buying gas from the franchise supports BP.

 

[ming]

I agree with Felix.
Imagine your workplace got bad PR, so people stalked you and started to vandalize your home because of it. You wouldn't want people to want you to suffer just because you work at a certain place. You could be just a janitor at the place for all they cared.

 

[beerfish]

It does not give the public the power of penalizing whoever they want with disregard to the livelihood of our neighbors and family's welfare.

Actually boycotting is one of the most powerful resources we have as a collective people. Last year, pressure from the public ended sweatshop practices by DKNY. In years past, Debeers has given up land after forcing people out, and Royal Caribbean Cruises installed clean water technology.

While we have the ability to vote for politicians that can influence laws related to industry, the only method (let me rephrase... the only peaceful method) of directly speaking to an industry is to hit them where it hurts... in the pocket.

While I sympathize with your friend, I can't support an oil giant that has killed people with it's carelessness and continues to destroy our ocean and the livelihood of other people who rely on it for their incomes.

 

[beerfish]

I agree with Felix.
Imagine your workplace got bad PR, so people stalked you and started to vandalize your home because of it. You wouldn't want people to want you to suffer just because you work at a certain place. You could be just a janitor at the place for all they cared.

I'm not talking about stoning anyone. I'm saying I won't purchase anything from them. There's a little bit of a difference there.

 

[AlohaTropics]

I agree that boycotting is one of the best and most powerful tools of the collective public but you have to do it responsibly. We aren't talking about boycotting 1 product that a business owner can easily drop or have alternatives to carrying.

There have been many noble intentions in history that have turned sour because the execution of that intention caused even more damage. So by your intention, the ultimate goal would be to shut down every BP gas station in the country. So what happens to thousands upon thousands of people that we hurt by doing that? You can't solve a problem by creating another problem. That's not a solution at all.

I hate to bring contoverial topics like religion into this but how many times in history have people suffered I'm the name of someones god or belief? Maybe their intention was correct because they are trying to send a message of Good, but in their actions of execution, they have hurt millions of innocent people in the process. I don't believe in this form of public demonstration. The public needs to choose a responsible way of sending a message. Hurting innocent business owners is irresponsible and simply the angry impulsive way to respond to BP an not well thought through.


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[Imbarrie]

I agree with Feliz also but this owner takes his chances opening a business. This is one of those chances. My first job was pumping gas at a family owned Gulf station. I worked there for over a year. I know the relationship between sellers and distributors.

Currently people have more power with where they spend their money than they do in politics. They have much less power with the politics surrounding Gulf oil drilling regulations. The owners of the businesses are caught in the middle, much like the entire coastal economy of the Gulf coast. Maybe they should unite and hit up BP for their lost business.
At least these people have a responsible entity to point their frustration. Unlike the millions of people that cant send their kids to college because they lost their jobs due to the recession.

 

[AlohaTropics]

If something can be done about the contracts that BP owners have with BP, then that would be an option. But they are unfortunately backed into a corner right now.

If this drags on and people continue to take their anger out on franchises, my friend could very well lose his house. He's already had problems making mortgage payments with the recent recession. I'd hate to see familys of these franchises start going bankrupt. The cycle of loss would be devastating.

I still think the best way would be to let the government lay heavy sanctions on BP and make them pay for all of the damage they have caused. Putting them out of business won't help anyone right now because people need BPs pocket to pay for things.

Angry responses do not solve problems. Accidents happen and they need to pay for their ignorance. Making them disappear will only leave a hole with even less solutions.

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[beerfish]

So by your intention, the ultimate goal would be to shut down every BP gas station in the country. So what happens to thousands upon thousands of people that we hurt by doing that? You can't solve a problem by creating another problem. That's not a solution at all.

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I never said that I want to shut anything down.

What I want is for BP to see a great enough loss that they decide to right a sinking ship. I want to see them do the right thing for their distributers, for their workers, and most of all for the ocean and the people affected by what they've done.

I'm talking about taking a kids allowance away until they do their chores, not putting the kid up for adoption.

 

[jaa1456]

Mobil is Exxon there the same company. Did you ever see and Exxon/Mobil station .
Heres the proff http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/

Batt I was getting ready to write same exact thing, I don'y use BP, just because there are so many different stations closer to my house. By the way alot of the companies share the same exact oil. If a company has a rig closer to a certain spot other companies will buy or trade oil from them. And almost all small gas staitons get there gas(not oil) from the refineries close to them. So a raceway or Wawa could be using BP gas.

 

[jaa1456]

Actually boycotting is one of the most powerful resources we have as a collective people. Last year, pressure from the public ended sweatshop practices by DKNY. In years past, Debeers has given up land after forcing people out, and Royal Caribbean Cruises installed clean water technology.

While we have the ability to vote for politicians that can influence laws related to industry, the only method (let me rephrase... the only peaceful method) of directly speaking to an industry is to hit them where it hurts... in the pocket.

While I sympathize with your friend, I can't support an oil giant that has killed people with it's carelessness and continues to destroy our ocean and the livelihood of other people who rely on it for their incomes.

Boycotting would work to a degree, the company would (in most cases) just change their name "sell" the company to an overseas buyer and resume under a new name. The general public would start buying the BP products under a new name putting money right back into their pockets. It happens all the time. Look at a post on here, The guy didn't know that Exxon owns Mobil. This practice happens all the time and is 100% legal. Afterall Bp was a different company only about 5-10 years ago, Anyone remember the name?

 

[AlohaTropics]

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I never said that I want to shut anything down.

What I want is for BP to see a great enough loss that they decide to right a sinking ship. I want to see them do the right thing for their distributers, for their workers, and most of all for the ocean and the people affected by what they've done.

I'm talking about taking a kids allowance away until they do their chores, not putting the kid up for adoption.

Yes but how do we know what the breaking point is for these franchise owners? We don't have pinpoint boycotting to the point where we know when the franchise is just making enough money to support their business and families. I will be too late when we see the gas station close and that owner now will need to collect government aid which collaterally adds to our cost.

See what I mean by actions causing more problems? You have to fully think through an action and see all of it's effects before commiting to it. Every has a consequence and we need to act in a way that doesn't cause more damage.


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[ming]

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I never said that I want to shut anything down.

What I want is for BP to see a great enough loss that they decide to right a sinking ship. I want to see them do the right thing for their distributers, for their workers, and most of all for the ocean and the people affected by what they've done.

I'm talking about taking a kids allowance away until they do their chores, not putting the kid up for adoption.

How did they wrong their distributers, or workers? Aren't they already trying to do the right thing for the ocean and the people affected already? (although unsuccessful with the ocean, but still trying)

 

[AlohaTropics]

How did they wrong their distributers, or workers? Aren't they already trying to do the right thing for the ocean and the people affected already? (although unsuccessful with the ocean, but still trying)

I agree. The problem is, this was an accident. Like stated before, this drilling accident could have happened to any oil company.

The proper recourse is for BP to pay actual Money for the damage they caused. Not to create more pain by boycotting and destroying more in the process. You really don't think BP is not going to lose billions of dollars to pay for their mistake? Isn't this the penalty your looking for? Focus on this and not taking matters into your own hands and causing more damage along the way with reckless actions.

I don't want this to turn into a heated debate or anything. Just wanted to chime in on a very important topic because it affects my friend.

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[beerfish]

I agree. The problem is, this was an accident. Like stated before, this drilling accident could have happened to any oil company.

Sure it could have, if they didn't take the proper safety precautions that they should have.

The proper recourse is for BP to pay actual Money for the damage they caused. Not to create more pain by boycotting and destroying more in the process. You really don't think BP is not going to lose billions of dollars to pay for their mistake? Isn't this the penalty your looking for?

It's obviously not enough seeing as how they've refused help from others, continue to lie about the state of the oil spill, and are now having police detain reporters that have every right to be there.

Focus on this and not taking matters into your own hands and causing mote damage along the way with reckless actions.

Freedom is one of the greatest things we have in the USA. You're free to buy gas at BP, and I'm free not to. My belief is that if this company isn't slapped harder, the collateral damage will get much worse, and so I refuse to support them in any way that I can directly and knowingly control.

I think the one thing we can all agree on is that they need to stop the oil.