Anyone paints cars?

[NYreefNoob]

yeah jimmy when i painted { use to do alot of dope boy cars } they would say i want it really wet put extra clear on it, it almost becomes glass like as far as becoming brittle, reason with heavy clear you need a temp controlled area to store the car. and dont use a clay bar, i havent seen those used in 15 yr's. most clay bar's are a heavier cut then 1000 grit sand paper. plus if you dont get the right one u will uck ur car up, and you wll still need to buff it, honda has a known issues with the clear milking and the wet sand will take alot of the milk appearance out of it, true sun fade you really cant do anything about because the base is under the clear and u cant sand the base without taking clear off and it still wouldnt matter because the pigment of the color is lost. honda also had issues with the clear being too thin and it basically starting to flake off, especially on the hood, roof top of fenders, qt'er's and trunk. been doing paint on and off for almost 20 yr's, don't paint anymore but do work in a bodyshop. have to find some pic's of some of the cars i have painted over the yr's, really was into doing ghost patterns, true pearls and anything as far from factory as possible

 

[JimmyR1rider]

I LOVE ghost flames and patterns- sick ass paint jobs. Havent done any paint in a long time- was when 3to 5 was used and it did crack a lot of times. Usually right on creases and other body lines.. I also think a nice pearl paint job done correctly is a beautiful paint job. I used to like irodescent were cool when custom shops first did them but then they became almost mainstream in a way and people went heavy with 3 or 4 different colors as you walked by it and thats when I lost interest in them- the colors they were using didnt meld well together- theyd use deep purples that would change to gold... Too much contrast. I liked when they first did them and youd walk by and almost second guess your eyes as it went from one shade of blue to another or greens or purples but the colors coincided with each other not clash.

 

[NYreefNoob]

ford started that with the cobra's chroma something and it flipped 3 color's, now it's called a camillion and true camillion flips 7 colors if done right, paint was too much for me to play with too figure out $600 a qt not including reducers ect,

 

[JimmyR1rider]

Wow yeah I knew it was expensive but didnt know it was 600 a qt! Sheesh, I guess if done right a 7color change would be sick- I just remember most of the ones you saw showing up on the scene I wasnt impressed with. I saw the first one I ever saw at FT.HOOD when I was in the ARMY was in 96-97 the guy had it on a Mitsubishi 3000GT- had it done at a well known custom painter in Killeen was nice was a blueish purple that changed to a deeper more true purple- was nice.

 

[flipit13]

rick i never saw a clay bar be abrasive. i have 2 friends with very high end detail shops and from my experience when used properly only removes dirt and particles thats why you need to seal after and not buff.

as for the Kolor change paint(KAMELEON) house of kolor was the first company to actually design and use it. Then PPG figured out how to do it and approached ford. now every paint company has it besides Spies Heckler. But with their intercoat clear and HOK's color shift flakes it can be achived

 

[flipit13]

jimmy that probably was just a 3 stage paint on your friends 3000 which was a blue base and a purple pearl intercoat then just clear. which would give the illusion of the spots that hit the light seamed lighter and the darker areas looked the blue base. just a guess. usually you would see some kind of red, silver and or gold tones usually the blueish kameleon went with green and gold tones for highlights.

 

[motortrendz]

the cobra camelion pain job added almost 10g to the price back in 02.. crazy.. and like nynoob said that was only 3 colors..

 

[aznt1217]

Post a picture so we can even determine what your "sun fade" is lol

 

[UnknownWaters]

+1 show us the pics! and flip HOK? you beat me 2 it great paint company.these pics tell a story of bad paint pic1 sunfaded pic2 body shop for complete paint job and pic3 final product oh yeah its my sons car 4 short days later back to the body shop it went and its goin for another trip screw fresh paint and screw black paint and screw road salt and grit lol.

 

[motortrendz]

eeeh thats a hard call, dont think thatll come out without sanding and repainting the area..

 

[NYreefNoob]

btw hopefully the bodyshop told you no wax for atleast 3 months and i dont suggest a car wash { drive thru } for atleast a month, and wet sanding that would made it look better but not a %100 thats from the clear

 

[motortrendz]

oh im an idiot, i didnt read the post with the pics...