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I just read this and had to post it :lol2: they are insane......

White claimed on the conference call the M-1, Fedor's management team, wants a 50-50 split on pay-per-view revenue. That's the sticking point.
 

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And if they stick to that, Fedor will never fight in the UFC.

Kongo got beat by Velasquez easily in his last fight. If Kongo beats Mir, than Lesnar and Velasquez (if he beats Carwin) are way ahead of the rest of the heavyweights.
 

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Just read that. Bad move for everyone. Only the M-1 president got what he wanted as he'll get a stake in the strike force events, but since they don't air on ppv, I don't think he'll be getting too much.
 

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Strikeforce do air on pay per-view, they recently had one. A lot of people don't know but Strikeforce in the west coast is huge, Guys like Cung Le, Shamrock are household names. I have yet see the UFC do a show on the west coast.

Dont' forgot strikeforce is also on CBS and Showtime. This will give more publicity to Fedor.
 

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How often do they have ppv's? Once every six months? I read a list of heavyweights in strikeforce, and they basically have 0 serious contenders to Fedor.

What a waste.
 

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And who is a contendor in UFC for lesnor....the division has no one as well.....And fedor already beat half the guys that brock will be against.


You have 2 guys who are undefeated in Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez. They may not turn out to be the greatest heavyweights off all time but right now they are undefeated and fighting each other for the right to face Lesnar. That makes them contenders. Who does strikeforce have that can actually beat Fedor or give him a good fight? Is there a single fighter?

In my opinion, M-1 through out a proposal they knew Dana White would never accept.
 

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brock has yet to take a serious punch or a cro cop head kick his time will end soon

This is true. I believe part of the reason is because he usually knocks guys down with his strength and then just stays on top of them. He is much heavier than most guys. He enters the octagon at about 290 lbs. His game plan should be to take guys down and punish them on the ground.

Whether he fights Carwin or Velasquez, it should be an interesting fight.
 

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A live show but i think the WEC did a show in Sacra, Uriah Faber hometown. But the UFC hasn't yet.

Tangrules, I think you forgot about the current strikeforce heavyweight champion
Alistair. The guy is very impressive he defeated twice Victor Belfort as a light heavyweight. He is also undefeated as a heavyweight.

Vasquez and Carwin would be heavyunderdog against Alistar, Also Brett Rodgers has impressive knockout power.
 

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I am familiar with Alistair but I don't think he stands a chance against Fedor. I don't think he would beat Brock either. Just my opinion. I think Brock will go down against a big puncher, somebody like Carwin or Rodgers.

Or obviously Fedor but I just don't think we'll see that happen with M-1 wanting half of the ppv.
 

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hey thane,
i'm assuming you're showing ufc 101 this sat? since i missed the last one, the missus and i are coming to this one. we're meeting a friend there...rhyan dela isla...he said he knows you....he used to hang there after work when he was managing my buddy's restuarant. he's in town from prague so we're gonna go hang at play.
we'll see you sat. night, tom
 

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You have 2 guys who are undefeated in Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez. They may not turn out to be the greatest heavyweights off all time but right now they are undefeated and fighting each other for the right to face Lesnar. That makes them contenders. Who does strikeforce have that can actually beat Fedor or give him a good fight? Is there a single fighter?

In my opinion, M-1 through out a proposal they knew Dana White would never accept.






Fedor
Barnett
Overeem
Rogers
Werdum

Brock Lesnar
washed up Crocop
washed up Nog
Carwin
Cain
who has the more legit threats?


:tongueani
 
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hey thane,
i'm assuming you're showing ufc 101 this sat? since i missed the last one, the missus and i are coming to this one. we're meeting a friend there...rhyan dela isla...he said he knows you....he used to hang there after work when he was managing my buddy's restuarant. he's in town from prague so we're gonna go hang at play.
we'll see you sat. night, tom


Tom,
Awsome buddy...I was supposed to be in Vegas this weekend....and due to the fact that there wont be a wedding anymore.....:irked:...I will be in town....So chances are I will be there...:splitspin Give me a call when you get there or if you need anything...shoot me a pm i will give you my number..

Thane
 

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Fedor
Barnett
Overeem
Rogers
Werdum

Brock Lesnar
washed up Crocop
washed up Nog
Carwin
Cain
who has the more legit threats?


:tongueani

Neither division seems very strong to me. To make a division strong you should have guys who can seriously threaten the champion. At strikeforce, Fedor will be the champ after his next fight and I don't think any of those guys pose a threat to him. So there are no legit threats. They can all put up good fights against each other but I doubt any of them can beat Fedor.
 

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Umm..UFC does shows in sacramento and L.A. LOL what are you talking about BUD LOL.....

GSP beat Mat hughes for the belt at Arco Arena in sacramento.....

UFC 60 was at Staples center and thats when matt hughes beat royce gracie

UFC 104 will be at staples center....
 

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