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ireefny

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Im with Matt, no one broadcasts at rate of 1080p, by the time they do this you will want another TV. save the $$$$ & get a bargain on 1080i.

unless you have HD / Blue Ray DVD, thats another story ( & another $500 atleast)
 

nycitaliano9

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I know this topic was just beat to death. Now that the holiday season is upon us, I'm just wondering if anyone has some new purchases they'd like to share.

I'd prefer to go with 1080p. Not sure which is preferable, LCD or Plasma. All input (hopefully from experience) is welcome.

Thanks,
swimmer

http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000OE02G4/103-0366658-3226209?SubscriptionId=1ZZY9ATAZCVM1HJ6QP02
Great TV For a Great Price 15000 contrast for less then $1500 you cant beat that. Plus 1080p If you going to buy a 40 inch this one is great.
 

leoskee

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What about the power cord? I was shopping around for an LCD last week and every store I went to tried to sell me a huge power cord for $50+. The fact that every store tried to do the same thing made me think that I did not really need what they were trying to sell. Their reasoning was that the TV could easily get damaged in a power outtage or in a power surge. Any info on this?
 

SIReefer

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Just like a tank - better to get a larger tv so you don't need to upgrade later. You won't regret it. If you are a gamer & tend to leave the tv on while you hit the fridge, etc., LCD has no burn in issues like plasma. Consumer reports have done tests on plasma & although burn in is less of an issue on newer models, I wouldn't risk it on a $2,000-$5,000 television.
 

boozeman

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I recently bought the 40'' sony xbr5 and a sony blue ray player for my bedroom. The picture produced by this combo is awesome!
I was watching the latest harry potter movie on sunday and the picture produced was superb.
 

masterswimmer

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Guys, this feedback is exceptional. It looks like LCD 42" is going to be it. Just not sure which one. And boozeman, you freakin killed me with the new HP movie. We JUST gave it to my son tonight for the holidays. I've read all 7 and can't wait to see it on blueray.

Russ
 

cali_reef

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Im with Matt, no one broadcasts at rate of 1080p, by the time they do this you will want another TV. save the $$$$ & get a bargain on 1080i.

unless you have HD / Blue Ray DVD, thats another story ( & another $500 atleast)


You have been mis-informed, most HD TV programs are broadcasted in 1080i, all film based movies are pretty much 720P and is up-converted to 1080i.

I have a 50" Panasonic plasma that is about 7 years old and is one of the first 50" consumer plasma TV that came out. IT HAS NOT BURNED OUT YET:smoker: It's picture quality beats any 720P LCD TVs I have seen.

From http://www.nbc.com/Footer/HDTV/

"Aren't there two different HDTV formats (720p and the 1080i)? Which will a new HDTV receive?
The Digital Television (DTV) standard allows broadcasters to choose among several different formats that they can transmit. There are two high definition formats: 720p and 1080i. NBC broadcasts HDTV in the 1080i format, which provides the highest possible resolution to our audience. But you don't have to worry - any HDTV receiver will receive both formats.

Why are there two HD formats? What are the technical details of 720p and 1080i?
Having two HD formats allows broadcasters to choose the format that provides the best technical quality for their particular mix of programming.

The 720p format makes a picture with 720 vertical lines, each with 1280 pixels horizontally -- so in computer display terms, it has a resolution of "1280 x 720". 720p uses progressive scanning, like computers, which sends a complete picture 60 times per second. 720p provides the smoothest possible motion rendition, but it does not have as much resolution as 1080i.

The 1080i format makes a picture with 1080 vertical lines, each with 1920 pixels horizontally -- so in computer display terms, it has a resolution of "1920 x 1080". 1080i uses interlaced scanning, like traditional TV, which alternates sending odd lines and even lines and thus sends a complete picture 30 times per second. 1080i provides the highest possible resolution, but has the same motion rendition as traditional TV.

For those of you are really technically inclined, think about this: movies and many primetime shows that are produced on film are made with only 24 pictures per second, so 1080i actually becomes progressive scan when film-based material is being broadcast!"
 

nycmat

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so in computer display terms, it has a resolution of "1920 x 1080". 1080i uses interlaced scanning, like traditional TV, which alternates sending odd lines and even lines and thus sends a complete picture 30 times per second. 1080i provides the highest possible resolution, but has the same motion rendition as traditional TV.

For those of you are really technically inclined, think about this: movies and many primetime shows that are produced on film are made with only 24 pictures per second, so 1080i actually becomes progressive scan when film-based material is being broadcast!"

cali--

you would agree here that the 1920 pixels are the key to the 1920 X 1080. yes the 2 are different but you can clearly see what i was saying about the broadcasting and the best quality picture. the more pixels the better the picture. up to 1920. they havent made that broadcast possible so the 1080i interlaced can only use up to 720 pixels at best. so if you have a 1080p you know you have the best possible picture hands down.

russ--

that thread cali has posted is real informative. use it to your advantage.

to the person who asked about the power cord do not buy it from them. go to Bj s or costco and get it there regardless of what they tell you. they can never beat the prices there let alone match them. also a cheap hdmi works well. stop looking into monster stuff. all they do is add some pretty colors and make them look real nice, and charge you a lot more money for them. that is where the real loss is in buying items like this.

also for a reference russ-

regarding a warranty. its a smart investment for somehting like this. if you drop a pixel etc. this can be haggled. i remember i called sony and asked them on speaker phone right in front of the salesman how much the warranty was from them to show them that theres was rediculously high. they had no other choice but to give it to me close to what they were giving me it for. they couldnt match it for obvious reasons. but in the end you know the deal.

also regarding ANY flat tv for an everyone.

if you buy a flat tv it belongs on a wall. plain and simple. takes up less space and it looks cool. who wants to run the possibilty of someone bumping into it and knocking it over. eye level as well. you dont want to strain your neck looking up all day. and you are not at a bar.
regarding the mount--

you can get that as well cheap in bjs or costco for 70 to 100 bucks. do not need to buy it at the store for more. they will tell you i can do really well on them. but ultimately they have to make a buck remember that. they are not your friend.

also they charge rediculous prices for mounting it. for example they wanted $400 to put my 52" on the wall. i laughed and asked do u want to bend me over before i pay or afterwards? i mean how rediculous!@!.
guys all it is, is 4 count em yes 4 screws into the wall!!. for $400 give me a break. all you need is a beam finder and a level. oh yeah a drill. if you want to put the wires in the wall like i did-- you will need a snake and a thing of electrical tape or grey tape. and of course a 2" drill hole bit.
all this might sound complicated but it really isnt. i put mine on as well as a friends and all i asked was to take me to dinner @ matteos and pay for my gas. LOL. guys its real easy to do and save yourself the money.

matt
 

Dmitry

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I got a 50'' Panasonic plasma and it rocks. Astonishing picture quality. Burn-in is not an issue. I think the cons of LCDs outweigh the cons of Plasmas. LCD screens need to be seen as straight-on as possible. Any sideways movement cuts on the picture quality. Blacks and shadows have NOT caught up to plasmas. I've never heard about "bumping" into a plasma and damaging it permanently. And ghosting in LCDs is still a problem. So in a way it depends on what you'll be using your TV for. If you just watch the news and sitcoms an LCD will be fine. If you watch movies (and care how they look) plasmas are a better choice.

As far as 1080i vs 1080p - the truth is that unless you're also investing in an HD or a BlueRay player - 1080p is not necessary because no one is broadcasting in that format and none of the regular DVD players upconvert to it. 1080i is as high as everyone goes except for HD and BlueRay. So you might save a few hundred dollars to get the "p." I'm also not sure most people would really see the difference between "i" and "p."
 

cali_reef

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Russ, FWIW, I bought a second 42" Panasonic plasma (720P model) few weeks ago for $799+tax at 6th Ave electronics. You can't beat the quality of the picture when you are only watching HD cable with any LCD TV at that price.
 

nycmat

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russ you can now get a blue ray dvd player for 299 and a hd dvd player for 199. both with assorted types of movies. russ stay with the LCDs. plazmas r fine, to each there own. but like i said i do not like someone telling me when my tv is going to burn out. thats just me.

more importantly please read the other advice that i posted as far as mounting the tv on the wall, the outlets, and the hdmi's. those are the salesmans pitches. if anyone else can give advice about this its really important cause as most of us already know, you buy a tv for $1000 and then have to try and get suckerd inot buying a 100 cord and then a warranty and then mounting it can run you another couple of hundred dollars. seriously russ please look into this stuff. by the way costco, if you buy a tv there and keep your reciept, they will exchange the tv as long as you have it. i know this cause 2 friends have done this already.
 

ireefny

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Russ, FWIW, I bought a second 42" Panasonic plasma (720P model) few weeks ago for $799+tax at 6th Ave electronics. You can't beat the quality of the picture when you are only watching HD cable with any LCD TV at that price.


tying to get your $$ worth from the moving company?:biglaugh:
 

masterswimmer

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All info duly noted. Matt, I've built MANY houses as a GC, so you can bet I'll be installing my own wall mount.....and moving my outlet and cable connection to the appropriate location.

I noticed some LCD's have two and some have three HDMI connections. Is there an advantage to the extra one? My son does play Wii incessantly.

Blueray is still out there for me. Not because of price, but because I don't know that my eye is so keen that I'd see that much of a difference.

My biggest and most important concern is the range of viewing. I must get at least 150 degrees.

R
 

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