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jhale

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lol cali, I'll get to the links, I was not sure if I linked them they would work, like dean pointed out some peeps have the pages set for 40 views some for 10.

I did not get charged for tax, it did show up on the bill but was not included in the total, funny.

Cali I was wondering as a man who has used many skimmers how do you personally judge the way they work? Do you look at the tank and consider that, or do you judge the skimmer by what it produces. What are your skimmer favorite features over the years? If you could combine the best features all in one skimmer what would they be. and last, has the skimmer been made that you feel could not be improved upon?

thanks, J
 

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both the skimmer look pretty damn good to me, but the elos does look more fine tune.

Jon, I want to ask, how is the noise on these two skimmer? Did you notice any vibration of any sort with these skimmers?
 

jhale

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lol Rich, when are you going to come over and tell me?

Great question Tom! I forgot about the noise issue.

first the elos, the ehiem pump it uses it quiet I can't hear it, also they put a silencer on the end of the air intake hose that works well.

the DAS is a bit noisy, one of the pumps vibrates and I could not figure out how to make it stop. It's not a loud noise, I think it may quiet down once it runs for a while, and with the doors closed to the sump you can't hear more than a hum.
 

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So its only on one of the pump that is making a vibrating noise and the other one is not?

jhale said:
the DAS is a bit noisy, one of the pumps vibrates and I could not figure out how to make it stop. It's not a loud noise, I think it may quiet down once it runs for a while, and with the doors closed to the sump you can't hear more than a hum.
 

jhale

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ctxmonitor said:
So its only on one of the pump that is making a vibrating noise and the other one is not?

yes, I think it's the one on the left. Like I said it might just be because it's new. :scratchch
 
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oh, I forgot about Shauns EX-1, I was just speaking to him about it, my bad. okay so that's three of us with a DAS, soon to be four that I know of.

so when do we get to see the ns-4000 working? :sgrin:

MR DAS owners, herman bx-3, shaun ex-1, rich bx-3, me ex-2.

MR Elos owners, me ns-1000, it's lonley being in the elos club :bagfish:

Soon to be a DAS BX1 owner as well

Srry Jesse
I would love to own one of your skimmers.In the future.
Im hoping the BX 1 is made better :division: :splitspin
 

cali_reef

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jhale said:
Cali I was wondering as a man who has used many skimmers how do you personally judge the way they work? Do you look at the tank and consider that, or do you judge the skimmer by what it produces. What are your skimmer favorite features over the years? If you could combine the best features all in one skimmer what would they be. and last, has the skimmer been made that you feel could not be improved upon?

How good a skimmer work is not directly related to how the tank it support looks, some of the crappy tanks I have seen have great equipment.

My opinion of a good skimmer is based on (in order of importance to me):
1. Performance - it must be able to pull lots of crap out of water, fast. I have not seen any skimmer beat a Beckett skimmer in this area and Barr is by far the best performing skimmer I have used.
2. Construction - it must be built to withstand some abuse. Skimmer is the one piece of equipment in our system that gets the most amount of fiddling, cleaning, and moving around, good skimming skimmer that leaks or cracks easily is garbage (MRC comes to mind).
3. Power consumption - with the current price per KW and surcharge, this is moving up the list for me. My kick ass Barr will be replaced soon because the pump that is driving it uses 400+Watts.
4. Adjustment - I think the perfect skimmer should be easy to adjust and maintain that adjustment. So far I have not seen a perfect skimmer.
5. Noise level - Good needle wheel skimmer usually don't have a problem in this area, Beckett is about as loud as you can get when you include the pump noise, I would never recommend installation in a living area.

I think the Deltecs are pretty good and have a lot of the qualities I am looking for in a skimmer. The only thing I don't like about them is the price DELTEC charges for plastic.. I think they made their killing on the skimmers already and now should produce a lower priced line to cater the majority. The reason Doug gives for the $500 Eheim is BS, I am looking at a standard 1260 and a 1260 from my 701, I don't see the $375 premium they charge and I sure don't believe a plastic needle wheel is $375.

Good customer service is important, but not to everyone. Sometime they do more damage than good, I get really mad when they try to over sale them selfs by bashing other skimmers. I just don't see a need for that kind of "advertising" and would not want to buy a product from individuals that resort to those tactics.
 
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jackson6745

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:sgrin::sgrin::sgrin:
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ctxmonitor

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Rich, you got to give more detail than that, lol. I know a pic worth a million words, but we want specs.. Start off with dimenison. :D You probably breaking your whole sump down and setting this baby up, lol..
 

jhale

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cali_reef said:
I want to see tha master piece David built for you to house the skimmer:D.

yeah what's up with the mystery sump?

Rich I heard under your stand looks nothing like it used to, lets see some updated shots.

and measure the needle wheel for cali before you get the bx-3 wet ;)
 

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ctxmonitor said:
Rich, you got to give more detail than that, lol. I know a pic worth a million words, but we want specs.. Start off with dimenison. :D You probably breaking your whole sump down and setting this baby up, lol..

See post # 2 on this thread

I hear some wonderful things about the sump. Even carved with the builders name so everyone who gets to see it will know who is responsible for the work of art :D
 

jhale

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wow Rich is fast,
then if it's in the sump where are the photos???!!!

lame, he even started the thread, and having to work is not an excuse, look at me :P
 

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