- Location
- Elizabeth, NJ
Nice
aquarium BAN!!!!
- Thread starter albano
- Start date
- Location
- yonkers ny
as will happen in the gulf
since collection of most corals has been banned from the gulf of mexico for quite some time, what do you plan to repopulate it with? other than maybe a few ricordea, what native gulf corals do you know of in captivity (other than research)?
beyond that, all of our tanks are primarily filled with pacific corals, and thus with pacific parasites and other nasties. not sure how putting that stuff in the gulf is gonna help.
um, Snorkle Boob? Do you not think divers are stressing out the fish and reefs too??? Just curious. Maybe we should not own cats or dogs because they would blah blah blah we get it Bob, now shut up and run your snorkling business...
- Location
- westchester ny
Honestly that guy is pretty dead on about the damage the industry causes to unprotected reefs and the mortality rate of the fish. Could we stand up against fish overharvesting? Could we call for limited collection of corals? Could we do more to make sure we dont harm the oceans? sure I guess we could if we want to price ourselves out of the hobby we enjoy and still watch the oceans be destroyed anyway. The bottom line is that our hobby does WAY more harm than good to the reefs of the world, and if the world was perfect and humans acted as if they were part of the environment rather than its masters, it would be worth it to reconsider keeping home aquaria. But the reality is that humans are a funny evolutionary blurp in the history of this planet and we will destroy our selves soon enough at which point the oceans can return to the way they were before we came along. IMO we might as well enjoy our tanks as the world falls apart around us.
Ooooooooooooooh, wait, I get it...he's a 501c3 NON-PROFIT organization too!!!
http://snorkelbob.com/sb_foundation.htm
Maybe we could look at is financial records...
http://snorkelbob.com/sb_foundation.htm
Maybe we could look at is financial records...
- Location
- Brooklyn, NY
"the aquarium trade fills 80% of all tanks in the U.S. with Hawaii reef fish, 99% of which die in a year"
It is statements like this that make him a joke. There is no way 80% of american aquarium fish are from Hawaii and anyone with any knowledge of the industry knows this is an absurd statement. How does he know 99% die in a year? Has this data even been collected---anywhere, by anyone?
While it is undeniably true that overfishing and less than optimal practices are far too common and that too many fish die in hobbyists hands, this kind of hyberbole needs to be called out for what it is and not used by others as fact to justify policy making decisions.
It is statements like this that make him a joke. There is no way 80% of american aquarium fish are from Hawaii and anyone with any knowledge of the industry knows this is an absurd statement. How does he know 99% die in a year? Has this data even been collected---anywhere, by anyone?
While it is undeniably true that overfishing and less than optimal practices are far too common and that too many fish die in hobbyists hands, this kind of hyberbole needs to be called out for what it is and not used by others as fact to justify policy making decisions.
- Location
- westchester ny
If feel like this guy being as far out there as he is, is a good thing cus it prolly keeps people from taking him too seriously. The governor of Hawaii has a huge tank in his office so I doubt people are paying this guy any mind.
- Location
- Flushing NY 11355
i do think the number is close as I know Hawaii government are already VERY concerned about yellow tangs since last year. and I was told(did not verify fromt he governemtn myself) that they already put quotas on the trade of yellow tang.
- Location
- westchester ny
+1
the whole thing is rediculous... lol it would be like if we tried to start a movement banning house plants. This guy should learn how to pick his fights a little better, or even better, just stick to throwing stink bombs at Japanese whalers.
attacking the messenger does nothing to change the message. you can audit his company, attack his affiliations, call him a nut, whatever. maybe he is a nut, maybe his numbers aren't accurate, but the gist of it seems pretty right on.
Because it hits too close to home, JRobbins. When it's saving whales or dolphins in a cove; people will go up in arms, taunt and warcry all day about it. Once they turn off their LCD monitors, they'll just go out, score a grande caramel macchiato, and go about their business. This nut's article strikes a nerve in most of us, because every time we walk by our tank(s), we're reminded...
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- Location
- Elizabeth, NJ
WOW, that was deep. Preach on brother. :splitspin
- Location
- Flushing NY 11355
- Location
- Rhode island
Mr snorkel, mr diver, swimmer master, whatever this guy calls himself reminds me of a PETA activist.
Don't listen to this guy, and feel bad for doing something you enjoy. Eating red meat kills people, drinking beer is bad, carbs make u fat, and metallic is the devils music.......So on and so on..... Tell mr snorkel boy his boat fuel is hurting the ocean and his stinky bombs are bad for the ozone, maybe he will drown himself and donate his bodies nutrients to the earth! Doucheeee!
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Don't listen to this guy, and feel bad for doing something you enjoy. Eating red meat kills people, drinking beer is bad, carbs make u fat, and metallic is the devils music.......So on and so on..... Tell mr snorkel boy his boat fuel is hurting the ocean and his stinky bombs are bad for the ozone, maybe he will drown himself and donate his bodies nutrients to the earth! Doucheeee!
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- Location
- westchester
watch out on of our members name is masterswimmer
- Location
- westchester ny
hehe I wasnt sure how that was gonna be recieved. There was another thread about electric bills posted recently and i think it feeds right in with this thread, and how all of us especially the guy that wrote that aquarium ban thing can be so hypocritical sometimes. This guy is crying about a shortage of yellow tangs, meanwhile hes prolly running twin diesels out to the reef he loves so much three or four times a day so people who flew all the way out to hawaii consuming tons of jet fuel and poluting the air in the process can go snap pictures and disturb the ecosystem just by being there.
I absolutely love my tank. Im completely obsessed with it and I wouldnt trade it for anything. I care about the well being of my fish and my corals and do what I can to ensure they are healthy, but there is nothing altruistic about it. People dont keep reef tanks because they care about the ocean, they do it cus they covet something pretty, it is a status symbol, and its an opportunity to control something in a world where everything seems out of control.
If you doubt this fact, take some time to count how many fish you've flushed since you bought your first tank, or the wattage your system consumes every month, and then tell me its good for the environment because it premotes awareness lol.
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