As Big As I Can Go: My 75g Upgrade

[ellebelle]

I think I have lost my mandarin - and not from starving as he was fat and happy, but from ich. I haven't seen him in two days now. In fact, I predict that I am going to lose my tailspot blenny and my royal gramma as well. My lamarcki angel is starting to look better and she keep going to be cleaned by my new cleaner shrimp which will hopefully help.

Yellow clown goby, male and female pylei wrasses, chromis and firefish still have no signs of infection. I think they are safe.

After all signs of infection are gone, if I wait for 6 weeks do you think I'll be able to add more fish again?

Here is my favorite new frag!

 

[ellebelle]

Saw my mandarin today, but RIP tailspot blenny. You were a good and photogenic fish.

 

[Domboski]

Awesome frag and good news on the mandarin. RIP Blenny

 

[qy7400]

I like the colors on that frag, I can see why it's a favortie; you know the name?

I've never know a Mandarin to get ich, they have a thick slime coat that many feel makes them unlikely to get it; I'd double check the overflow and sump, never knew them as jumpers until I found one of mine there. 6 weeks is long enough if the tank was fishless but as long as you have fish in the tank the ich will never be eliminated.

And from the looks of it you do have the upgrade bug as well, based on your sig the bug will bite come spring.....120G is 4' wide, just a little taller and wider so not much real estate is needed....think of the aquascaping

 

[qy7400]

Saw my mandarin today, but RIP tailspot blenny. You were a good and photogenic fish.

Sorry to hear about the blenny but at least good news on the mandarin.

 

[ellebelle]

No more upgrades. I had the opportunity and I passed it by.

I didn't think mandarins got ich either, but mine definitely has it. White spots and his colors are not as vibrant as they ought to be. perhaps he will pull through - we shall see. I truly believe I am going to lose all of the fish that got ich though.

I think as long as the fish that are in there don't ever show any signs of ich, it should be virtually eliminated. They need a fish to finish its life cycle. If the fish are immune or fight it off, then that should be that - no more ich. I'll probably wait at least a couple of months before I add any new fish after this fiasco though.

 

[jhale]

I'm curious what makes a fish immune to ich? I had several fish that never showed signs of ich while some were covered in it. How does the fish prevent a parasite from attaching.

 

[ellebelle]

I used to think it was stress, but my MANDARIN got it. No one bothers that fish. He's got plenty to eat. He is fat, he has grown since I got him. He is a healthy mandarin. And he got ich? It doesn't make sense.

 

[Domboski]

I'm curious what makes a fish immune to ich? I had several fish that never showed signs of ich while some were covered in it. How does the fish prevent a parasite from attaching.

Oh I thought there was plenty of research :irked:

Ich is one of the most studied fish diseases out there. It effects the fish farming industry way more than people with fish tanks.

The facts are all out there. You just need to read them and understand them

FTW : the only way to keep ich out of your system for good would require having a DT, a QT and a tank to keep everything but fish to let any free swimming or hitch hiker ich die before getting in your DT. Oh and don't forget a hospital tank. Most people won't do this, so most everyone gets ich in the tank at some point.

google Ichthyophthirius studies and see what comes up, there are more studies than you would want to read.

 

[jhale]

yes there is, I never said I read it all though
thanks for posting my quote so I don't have to :lol2:

but really I know how to prevent and kill ich in the tank, but not how a fish wards off ich.

 

[Domboski]

I was also under the impression that Mandarins did not get ich :scratch: Too confusing for me.

 

[qy7400]

I don't think a fish becomes immune to ich, healthy fish just handle it better; perhaps like a cold for us. It would explain why someone can have a healthy tank for months and never show signs but stress a fish and that immunity has lessend giving the parasite the upper hand. How many people have thought they had ich but only lasted a day or two, not enough time to harm the fish but long enough perhps to maintin ichs survival in the tank. Knock on wood since my last battle with it I have yet to have a fish come down with it, but I let the tank run fallow for 2 months and kept all the fish in hypo for 4 weeks to ensure I eliminated it plus all new fish get 45 day QT... so far so good. IMO your tank either has it or not, parasite has to ome from a host.

 

[marrone]

I was also under the impression that Mandarins did not get ich :scratch: Too confusing for me.

It's rare to see a Mandarins show signs of ich, as they have a thick mucus coating which makes it hard for the ich spores to come through, but they do get ich. The ich is inside the body and usually the spores will show on the eyes and gills, and in some cases on the body. It's very similar to Eels, which can and do get ich.

 

[ellebelle]

 

[jhale]

I like the lighting in that photo, it looks very natural

 

[ellebelle]

Thanks. I figure if half of my fish are going to die and I can't really get new ones for a while, I might as well go back into keeping acros. :p I think that one is a deepwater tabling acro.

 

[ellebelle]

I think it is marine velvet, and not ich.

RIP Lamarcki Angelfish. You are missing and presumed dead as you did not come out after I loaded the tank with food. You were the only real impulse fish buy I've ever made and you were a good fish. You were a pretty blue color and had nice streamers on your tail. I'm sorry I introduced a virulent pathogen into your pretty new reef where you liked to swim back and forth across the tank.

 

[ellebelle]

 

[asianer]

Awesome pics Lissa, more please...

 

[marki24]

lissa what lense you shooting with and what camera, very nice pictures