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samster

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are you sure its smile algae?:scratch: when u stir or disturb the algae does it mix in with the water? and looks as if it was melting away?? should siphon out the slimy spots instead of just stirring lol and then just have a new batch of water to go back in, instead of just stirring it up and it's only ognna look fine for a few days but gets worst when it comes back
 
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You need more snails. I suggest a smally army of ceriths and nassarius to churn up the sand bed and break up the slime algae. if you've got good flow in there, once the snails churn it up, it shouldn't be able to settle on any rocks and will hopefully either die or get skimmed out. In a 29g, I have 6 nassarius and 25 cerith snails, plus about 10-15 astraes and 10 small hermit crabs.
 

dgthrasher

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I have used the redsea rid slime remover, its reefsafe, don't know how it works. but my corals survived (but I would use at your own risk) I only used it as my tank got covered at one point and I was afraid things were going to die anyway. I will say it won't solve your problem long term, but at least it may give you a chance to start over before it becomes a problem.

I would say you definately need more snails and hermits.

My problems went away once I got the refugium working properly, I would get patches on the glass where waterflow may have been a problem, but that was easily removed from time to time.
 

digitalreefer

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I have used the redsea rid slime remover, its reefsafe, don't know how it works.

Don't toss any chemical in your tank if you don't need to. Cyano can be corrected with a little effort (siphoning it out), a bit larger cleaning crew, and water changes. Cyano is a bacteria, not an algae, and is somewhat difficult to remove completely but with a bit of work, you should be able to get it under control.

My problems went away once I got the refugium working properly, I would get patches on the glass where waterflow may have been a problem, but that was easily removed from time to time.

There's quite a bit of cyano in your tank in the pics I've seen, and you're really only keeping softies, which may or may not be affected by slime remover. The fuge does not eliminate bacteria, so although you may have coincidentally noticed a difference when you put the fuge up, I seriously doubt it had any direct effect on the cyano.
 
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DEEPWATER

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flow rate? umm 50gph? well the rocks and sand are about 10months old? i used to have a 75gal fowlr tank but when i got my halides in 2months ago i changed about 60% of the water to RO and transferred to the 54gal...

did you use tap water previous to the change ,if so that is your problem ,if not disreguard this post :) Pretty much youll have to do water changes ,I say about 10 gals every few day for a while ,until you get your levels in check ,I would take out those Power heads and get a koralline or tunze power head instead of the aquaclears

are you check your RO water with a TDS meter ,does the unir have a membrane and DI ?

good luck

Ronen
 
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rebar

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I had a bad brown algae problem that i couldn't get rid of. nitrates low and phosphates aroundI' 0. but two powerheads and did water changes. nada. got new carbon. nada. finally, i put in some phosphate remover for two reasons: i may not be getting a good reading and it also removes silicates. After 4 days so far, not a sign of any algea. this is my two cents. I'll post in a week w/ progress
 

LeslieS

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I suggest a smally army of ceriths and nassarius to churn up the sand bed and break up the slime algae. if you've got good flow in there, once the snails churn it up, it shouldn't be able to settle on any rocks and will hopefully either die or get skimmed out. In a 29g, I have 6 nassarius and 25 cerith snails, plus about 10-15 astraes and 10 small hermit crabs.

You guys know how I feel about snails. They are important parts of our systems and we need to respect them by not overstocking and letting them starve to death.

Cerith snails are the only ones that will touch cyano (red slime), and they will not be able to keep up with it. All other snails will simply glide over the top of the cyano without disturbing it.

Nassarius snails are carnivors and will only eat detritus - not algae. Do not get the little tiny ones as they are a colder water species and will die in your tank within one or two years. Only get the big pale colored ones.

Turbos and astreas are good for eating algae but will not touch cyano or macro algae (beyond the tiny little shoot phase).

Snails can live up to 10 years. They are not meant to be tossed into our tanks to die within 1 or 2. Stock them slowly to see how they are keeping up with your algae.

If all your water levels are in good shape, then the cyano is a part of some cycle that is going on in your tank. Syphoning it out and increasing the flow are great ways to break it up and prevent it from settling.

Also, I originally bought maxi jets for my tank. They are a pain because they do not stay in place. There may be some mod for keeping them where you want them, but I switched some of mine to tunze nanos. The magnet holders alone are worth the extra 40 bucks!

Remember - Treat your snails with
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You guys know how I feel about snails. They are important parts of our systems and we need to respect them by not overstocking and letting them starve to death.

Cerith snails are the only ones that will touch cyano (red slime), and they will not be able to keep up with it. All other snails will simply glide over the top of the cyano without disturbing it.

Nassarius snails are carnivors and will only eat detritus - not algae. Do not get the little tiny ones as they are a colder water species and will die in your tank within one or two years. Only get the big pale colored ones.

Turbos and astreas are good for eating algae but will not touch cyano or macro algae (beyond the tiny little shoot phase).

I was thinking of the ceriths for churning up the cyano and the nassarius for turning over the sand bed some once the ceriths have done their work.
 

Bob 1000

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Not just more flow, but I don't like to state the obvious. That comment is in addition to others. This is a forum meant for comments from the masses not Bob 1000.. I speak from my experiences and hope that it helps another, as others to help me.Happy Easter and Happy reefing to all...I love everyones pics that appear when you post a message, especially Fritz's guy that's bringing sexy back....:lol_large
 

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