Help us Fish for Free in NY

[jackson6745]

Please sign this petition to help us fish for FREE! We should not have to pay for the right to go fishing.
http://www.nysenate.gov/webform/join-fight-restore-your-right-fish-free

 

[cb747]

Done I fully agree!

 

[JimmyR1rider]

The condition that the state budget is in with the deficits we have, you can sign 1,000 petitions- you'll still be paying to fish.

 

[jrobbins]

It's only like 10 bucks a year. Doesn't seem too onerous to me personally...

 

[ed51802]

If the money was going to conservation or other enviroment causes I wouldn't mind but since were just paying some big wigs salary I def want to sign that petion

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[bigdog1428]

I signed!!!

 

[Chiefmcfuz]

Signed.

 

[KathyC]

Signed

 

[Ziggy]

if the money was going to conservation or other enviroment causes i wouldn't mind but since were just paying some big wigs salary i def want to sign that petion

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1+

 

[rickytsui]

+2 i think is BS that we have to paid just to go fishing

 

[duke62]

is there a petition to sign for the outrageous hunting licenses

 

[KuyaMark]

Signed

 

[jackson6745]

It's only like 10 bucks a year. Doesn't seem too onerous to me personally...

You're right but there is a lot more to it. You now have to pay a fee to fish that will certainly grow over time. This money isn't being used for anything fishing related. Simultaneously the environmental extremists are taking away our right to keep fish, putting tons of commercial and pleasure fishing boats out of business as well.


(FYI)
The messed up part is there is actually no shortage of these fish. In fact the fishing is better than it has been in a long time for many species. There are numerous documents showing transfers of hundreds of millions of dollars in the forms of research grants to the higher ups of various environmental groups and even NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Admin.). Much of this money was gained from fine and permit collection. In fact there was a story on CBS a few weeks ago showing how NOAA purchased 202 vehicles for 172 employees, a 300,000 pleasure yacht, and various employee trips to exotic and expensive locations.
Here is an article and video to the story
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/16/eveningnews/main20032336.shtml

NOAA's ultimate goal is to implement a "catch shares" system in which everyone will have to pay for the right to catch a predetermined amount of fish for a fee. Fisherman from all over the east coast (from Maine to FL) are fighting this tooth and nail.

Anyway, you see a $10 fee and I see all this:biglaugh:

 

[jackson6745]

is there a petition to sign for the outrageous hunting licenses

Not that I am aware of Duke.

 

[ed51802]

Also did anyone notice the licence is only good till october than must get a new one form oct to dec the best time to fish in my book so its accually $20 a year

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[jaa1456]

You're right but there is a lot more to it. You now have to pay a fee to fish that will certainly grow over time. This money isn't being used for anything fishing related. Simultaneously the environmental extremists are taking away our right to keep fish, putting tons of commercial and pleasure fishing boats out of business as well.


(FYI)
The messed up part is there is actually no shortage of these fish. In fact the fishing is better than it has been in a long time for many species. There are numerous documents showing transfers of hundreds of millions of dollars in the forms of research grants to the higher ups of various environmental groups and even NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Admin.). Much of this money was gained from fine and permit collection. In fact there was a story on CBS a few weeks ago showing how NOAA purchased 202 vehicles for 172 employees, a 300,000 pleasure yacht, and various employee trips to exotic and expensive locations.
Here is an article and video to the story
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/16/eveningnews/main20032336.shtml

NOAA's ultimate goal is to implement a "catch shares" system in which everyone will have to pay for the right to catch a predetermined amount of fish for a fee. Fisherman from all over the east coast (from Maine to FL) are fighting this tooth and nail.

Anyway, you see a $10 fee and I see all this:biglaugh:

The commercial boats are not affected by any of the laws, They get to keep what they catch, no matter if it's a 6" fluke or a 30" fluke. The pleasure boats, which I assume you mean your personal boat will only be affected if you allow it to. I'm not talking about the liscense but rather the enjoyment of fishing itself. The idea behind noaa's fight for this, is due to the lack of large fish that use to be every where. This is what they are using as the back bone of their argueements. Not that there are a million 22" Fluke but the fact there are only ten 30" fluke.

 

[jrobbins]

You're right but there is a lot more to it. You now have to pay a fee to fish that will certainly grow over time. This money isn't being used for anything fishing related. Simultaneously the environmental extremists are taking away our right to keep fish, putting tons of commercial and pleasure fishing boats out of business as well.


(FYI)
The messed up part is there is actually no shortage of these fish. In fact the fishing is better than it has been in a long time for many species. There are numerous documents showing transfers of hundreds of millions of dollars in the forms of research grants to the higher ups of various environmental groups and even NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Admin.). Much of this money was gained from fine and permit collection. In fact there was a story on CBS a few weeks ago showing how NOAA purchased 202 vehicles for 172 employees, a 300,000 pleasure yacht, and various employee trips to exotic and expensive locations.
Here is an article and video to the story
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/16/eveningnews/main20032336.shtml

NOAA's ultimate goal is to implement a "catch shares" system in which everyone will have to pay for the right to catch a predetermined amount of fish for a fee. Fisherman from all over the east coast (from Maine to FL) are fighting this tooth and nail.

Anyway, you see a $10 fee and I see all this:biglaugh:

i hear ya, and normally i agree with the slippery slope argument, but at the end of the day it is still less than i would pay in gas and tolls just to get there. and you already have to pay for a freshwater license/hunting license, etc. why should this be different? i guess that is the part i am not getting.

 

[jackson6745]

i would pay in gas and tolls just to get there. and you already have to pay for a freshwater license/hunting license, etc. why should this be different? i guess that is the part i am not getting.

When you rationalize it like this it shouldn't be different I guess. I am not sure what % of the freshwater and hunting licenses fees go toward lake/river stocking and hunting related maintenance, but none of the saltwater license fees go to anything fishing related. The way I look at it is I have been fishing my whole life since I was a kid. I never had to pay a fee for the right to fish or go through the hassle of getting a license. I don't want this to change for myself or anyone else.
I run a charter boat and I am forced to pay an additional $400 for a "blanket" license to cover my customers. Ironically, if I want to fish personally, I have to buy a separate individual fishing license:tongue1:

 

[jdnumis]

signed

signed

 

[jackson6745]

The commercial boats are not affected by any of the laws, They get to keep what they catch, no matter if it's a 6" fluke or a 30" fluke. The pleasure boats, which I assume you mean your personal boat will only be affected if you allow it to. I'm not talking about the liscense but rather the enjoyment of fishing itself. The idea behind noaa's fight for this, is due to the lack of large fish that use to be every where. This is what they are using as the back bone of their argueements. Not that there are a million 22" Fluke but the fact there are only ten 30" fluke.

You are factually wrong on all points. If you do a little research you will see. I'm not looking to argue the motives of NOAA. If you agree with the license don't sign.