Graffiti Artist?
- Thread starter marki24
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Will you take the crime rates that went along with it too?
I suggest you read the Tipping Point, by Malcolm Gladwell.
If youre talking about all the punks that went tagging on walls writing thier stupid name ruining every thing ,vans ,cars, houes buildings that pppl work hard for ,,then i disagree
But if youre talking about the nice murels /painting / art that graffiti artists did ,yes that is sweet ,lots of talent there .they also get premision to use the wall from the owners and such ,so its legal AKA no over time for Brendan
They only get premission is because its illegal and before it was legal so you seen a lot of murals on walls and now you dont. I remember during different holidays there was different murals and writing that resembled the holidays and that look really pretty. And i disagree with crime being linked to graffiti. Thats just in the movies. When I state graffiti I mean real graffiti artist and not "toys" that just want phame by putting up trash all over. I am talking about the real thing. I used to paint murals with big time graffiti artist. But those days are over now.
I was a graf artist. For several years. I even went All City (tagged in all 5 boroughs and the name was recognized). But this was a long time ago. Any of you guys remember Unique in the village? They used to let you tag up on the lockers as you exited the store. They also had the air brush artists doing their thing in the front window.
Really. Once again, I direct you attention to the Tipping Point. And by most definitions of the word, grafitti is just vandalism wich is a crime.
Actually by most accounts, definitions of words are organic, very rarely do you have a word that is defined by comitte or law, (although the law does on ocassion codify the meanings of words for sake of statutaory interpertation, but generally the law requires that words be afforded their "plain meaning")
I refer you to the writings of Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida, and Ludwig Wittgenstein (my personal favorite).
Grafitti in its simplest form is vandalism any way you look at it. Does that mean that it goes hand in hand with other crimes? No. The graf world has a variety of subgroups that are not just about writing your name on a surface. All graf artist start off as taggers. The transition to murals ("pieces") is something that develops over time. This usually happens to those that have natural artistic ability. Once that transition is made you can start to look at graf as an art form.
- Location
- Greenpoint Brooklyn, NY
I used to have alot of friends who used to tag up. You guys are forgetting about all the things that happen that are assosiated with taggers. The turf wars for tagging over other poeples names, vandalism on your record as far as jobs are concerned, and not to mention that alot of the taggers out there are school dropouts or get kicked out for tagging up in school and the likes. And yes i'm saying part of the time graffiti leads to other crimes, or maybe other crimes lead people to grafitti. It comes with the territory like it or not.
Not saying all poeple doing graffitti are in that situation but i've got a few friends who are working in dead end jobs or ruined their lives b/c of numerous things on their records because of the life assosiated with grafffiti. Friend of mine was going for his PHD and got locked up with drugs on his record for hanging out with kids who were smoking/tagging at the same time and he never touched the stuff. He's done as far as going into any medical future.
The majority of taggers are in crews or gangs or assosiated with them and you know where that leads to. I don't see many people tagging for a good cause in nyc unless its funded for by an assosiation and goes up on the wall of a building. Not many poeple breaking through fences and tagging a mural about anything positive to add to the locale late night.
Not saying all poeple doing graffitti are in that situation but i've got a few friends who are working in dead end jobs or ruined their lives b/c of numerous things on their records because of the life assosiated with grafffiti. Friend of mine was going for his PHD and got locked up with drugs on his record for hanging out with kids who were smoking/tagging at the same time and he never touched the stuff. He's done as far as going into any medical future.
The majority of taggers are in crews or gangs or assosiated with them and you know where that leads to. I don't see many people tagging for a good cause in nyc unless its funded for by an assosiation and goes up on the wall of a building. Not many poeple breaking through fences and tagging a mural about anything positive to add to the locale late night.
- Location
- Greenpoint Brooklyn, NY
sigh, that lit the time bomb huh....:theyareon
Its a life style. Usually just a phase that grafitti artist grow out of. Your trying to make a point out of the extreme. If thats the case you can apply that to everything in life. Most of the people that I knew when I was doing grafitti graduated HS and went on to college. There were a few nuckle heads that took the life style to an extreme and did end up in bad situations. But that does not mean that everyone, or most, involved in grafitti end up doing other crimes. Yeah, being part of a crew is part of the life style. Do problems develop? Yeah. But how often do they occurr? If they were so common place you would have an outbreak of fights and gang activity involving grafitti artist all over the front pages of the newspapers.
I understand where you are coming from. But please dont generalize what you are saying. I lived it and know first hand what it is like, the in's and out's, the good and the bad.
As far as your friend goes, if he wasnt doing anything illegal with his friend he could have hired a good attorney and gotten out of that situation. But if he too was participating then based on what you said your friend put himself in that position. It wasnt the grafitti that did it.
Fuse difused:Blurp: lol
I understand where you are coming from. But please dont generalize what you are saying. I lived it and know first hand what it is like, the in's and out's, the good and the bad.
As far as your friend goes, if he wasnt doing anything illegal with his friend he could have hired a good attorney and gotten out of that situation. But if he too was participating then based on what you said your friend put himself in that position. It wasnt the grafitti that did it.
Fuse difused:Blurp: lol
- Location
- Dingmans ferry PA
i used to be a grafitti artist and i have a great job now with a house in long island and 2 wonderful kids.ive never been to prison or had problems with gangs or even been in any trouble with the law.and the people i used to do it with all have good jobs and families.i really can say even the guys i knew who use to tag with differant crew names are all a working part of society now.i have to say the reason for going out and doing graffiti was a way to have a enjoyable time with my boys after 8:00 beause if anyone grew up in bklyn there really wasnt much for that age group to do in the early and mid ninetys.that is pretty much the reason i did it.
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