Pigeon Kidnappers

[LeslieS]

I had heard that people take pigeons from the city parks to Pennsylvania and use them for trap shooting. Today I witnessed it myself.

If you see someone throwing nets over pigeons in the parks please report it to the park ranger or park police. They want this practice stopped and will actively pursue any leads you can give them.

No matter how you feel about pigeons, they are NYC property, and it is illegal to take them from the parks or harm them.

 

[lfsmarineguy]

actually the city gives permission to get rid of the pigeons to certain companies. I'm sure there are poachers out there but there are also people who are doing this legally. I know of several preserves that have ring shoots upstate where they use pigeons taken from the city. The pigeon meat isn't donated for obvious reasons but the meat from other birds we shoot at these events is donated to soup kitchens in the city along with a portion of the proceeds. Don't know about taking them from the park but most of these companies use crate like traps that are baited.

 

[noodleman]

poor pigeons, what would the dogs:dog: and kids chase around?

 

[duke62]

leslie s do u relize how toxic pigeon feces is to humans.it cause major respiratory infections and if god forbid u get it in a wound the infection that the person will get is life threating.im a ironworker from the city and i learned the respiratory infection first hand.if we can control the population by removing these birds from overpopulated areas in the city i say the more power to them

 

[jhale]

I will never understand what people get out of shooting birds just for the fun of it. Hunting and eating is one thing, but to kill them for target practice? There has to be a better way to control the pigeon population.

 

[crox99]

jhale

I totally agree. I will never shot an animal if I am not going to eat it.

 

[duke62]

alright when there is to many rats in the subway they poison them when there is to many roaches they poison them when to many mice they poison them no one says a word but when a cute pigeon which carry just as many diseases as these other creaturs people get up in arms.also do u know that the pigeon carry a mite on them which creates more asthma sufferers than roaches and dust combined.so if some pigeons fate is target practiice then so be it

 

[WaterPlant]

justisfied or not your decide

info from doh

 

[crox99]

With no doubt they carry diseases but their is a more human way to get rid of them!!

 

[duke62]

well look if you trap them and set them loose somewhere else they will reproduce and where they are relocated will cause problems elsewhere.pigeons reproduce average of 4 times a year with an average of 3 offspring.and they will reproduce 2 times as much in bigger cities because of abundance of food.so there really no "humane"way of taking care of them

 

[LeslieS]

I am a member of the NRA and believe in hunting to control populations, nd many families (like my own) in rural areas eat what they kill. I am not in favor of sqashing as many pigeons as you can into a net and stuffing them into the back of a station wagon to shoot at for fun. Trap shooting is just as fun with a clay target.

I wasn't aware that reefers thought only cute, furry, or wet animals deserved humane treatment.

It doesn't matter how we feel - it's illegal to feed them which is how they catch them, and it's illegal to catch them. The poachers are breaking the law twice.

 

[TimberTDI]

Why do I get the feeling that somewhere on someboard there are people talking about the bastards that keep marine wildlife in a glass cage?:scratchch

 

[LeslieS]

lol - Jer's mom is very pro animal. While speding time with her over the holidays I had to justify the tank about five million times

 

[nanoreefer22]

Why do I get the feeling that somewhere on someboard there are people talking about the bastards that keep marine wildlife in a glass cage?:scratchch

I've seen that board, it's not pretty .

 

[LeslieS]

btw - the people who catch pigeons in nets feed about 100 to catch 20 - that doesn't really help with population control. So even if you hate pigeons with your last dying breath you should report the snatchers

 

[WaterPlant]

Trap shooting is just as fun with a clay target.

plus it's more fair gamewise

 

[crox99]

Trap shooting is just as fun with a clay target.

I don't agree. Shooting at a pidgeon is much easier than shooting at a clay. I guess people that aren't good in trap shooting have to practice on a slower target:Hydrogen:

 

[lfsmarineguy]

ummmm just to clear things up. The pigeons are flying when you shoot them. Clays fly in straight lines, birds fly in every direction and most people can't even hit them. They aren't walking around on the ground when they get shot. That would be insanely unsafe. Besides, as I said before all the meat that isn't taken is sent to a company that dresses the birds to feed the homeless in NY not to mention a portion of the proceeds. If I told you some of the people I have shot with upstate you would be very surprised to see their names listed. How many of you do something charitable on a regular basis?

I too am a lifetime NRA member and not to get into the whole hunting thing but, everytime you eat a steak that animal at one point was slaughtered, dressed, and shipped to your place of purchase. Everytime you buy one of Frank Purdue's chickens wrapped in celophane on a styrofoam plate you are contracting the "murder" of another chicken to replace it. That chicken didn't get plucked off a chicken tree neatly wrapped in plastic, it was slaughtered. It was raised on a farm with it's destiny predetermined before it was even an egg. Game animals atleast have a sporting chance (not to mention taste far better and don't have all the preservatives and hormone foods in them). It's easy to seperate yourself from the process when you go to a supermarket and see rows and rows of nicely wrapped hunks of meat, but somewhere someone killed that animal for you. If you are that against hunting than may I suggest that, perhaps you would enjoy being a vegan and forsake the consumption of meat all together.

 

[jhale]

ummmm just to clear things up. The pigeons are flying when you shoot them. Clays fly in straight lines, birds fly in every direction and most people can't even hit them. They aren't walking around on the ground when they get shot. That would be insanely unsafe. Besides, as I said before all the meat that isn't taken is sent to a company that dresses the birds to feed the homeless in NY not to mention a portion of the proceeds. If I told you some of the people I have shot with upstate you would be very surprised to see their names listed. How many of you do something charitable on a regular basis?

I too am a lifetime NRA member and not to get into the whole hunting thing but, everytime you eat a steak that animal at one point was slaughtered, dressed, and shipped to your place of purchase. Everytime you buy one of Frank Purdue's chickens wrapped in celophane on a styrofoam plate you are contracting the "murder" of another chicken to replace it. That chicken didn't get plucked off a chicken tree neatly wrapped in plastic, it was slaughtered. It was raised on a farm with it's destiny predetermined before it was even an egg. Game animals atleast have a sporting chance (not to mention taste far better and don't have all the preservatives and hormone foods in them). It's easy to seperate yourself from the process when you go to a supermarket and see rows and rows of nicely wrapped hunks of meat, but somewhere someone killed that animal for you. If you are that against hunting than may I suggest that, perhaps you would enjoy being a vegan and forsake the consumption of meat all together.

So it takes killing animals for fun to get people to donate money?
Who are you to ask if people do something charitable? what if everyone said yes then what's the answer?

I did not read any one making any anti hunting or anti meat comments here. for myself I buy meat that is packaged as being raised humanly, I don't know if thats' true but I like to think it is.

As for being a vegan, please. The comment I made was about shooting animals for fun, which I find abhorrent and morally wrong.
If your going to eat that pigeon you just killed then maybe I'll listen to you
otherwise :dead:.

 

[lfsmarineguy]

maybe you need to re-read the prior posts J there were several anti hunting comments. Also, whether the animal was raised humanely or not, it had to be killed in order for you to get it, that is the point. So if I pull my own trigger or you pay someone to do it who are you to put yourself on a moral pedistal? Nobody made any anti-meat comments however, I used veganism as a way of making a point. If you find hunting so wrong yet you go to the grocery store to buy meat that someone else killed, than the best way for you to seperate yourself from the process is to become a vegan. Unless of course your convictions aren't that strong in which case you have no argument. Feel free to lock the thread so you don't have to respond.