Why did you close the thread on the hikers?

[jasno999]

Again nothing was wrong with the post and there is no reason why it should be closed.

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum...-you-think-about-hikers-oregon-mt-hood-2.html

Just because one person can't understand the tread does not mean it should be closed. Lets not have closed minds here. I thought that this fourm was for off-topic conversation. This is off topic conversation and it shoudl be allowed to continue.

Tonyscoots84 just does nto understand what I am trying to say. And I am in now way bashing Tonyscoot84 but if the country were run by people like you then we would have no money or taxes that were so high none of us would be able to afford food.

Tonyscoot84 you made the comment that if people were lost like these hikers then we shoudl go to every expense and do everyhting that we could to save them.... That is exactly what I dissagree with. Again I am not sayign don't save them or don't look for them but I don't think we should increase the national debt to do it. If we put this much effort into every search and every missing person then we would have no money for Social Security, nationa defense or any other governmental program.

Like I have said these people got themselves into a pickle and they need help. We shoudl give them help but there is no need to make this such a telivised even nor is there need to spend all the money in the world to look for them... It is not me being harsh it is me being real.

 

[Chiefmcfuz]

Because it was being counter productive is the reason I would say the mods closed it. we have had threads like it in the past that got out of control so it was probably closed to keep that from happening as well. If you want to debate it, take it to the RG

 

[alrha]

we have had threads like it in the past that got out of control

i know about those...

happens to be that i wrote a whole long 10 minute post for that thread, and by the time i clicked 'post' it was closed and my whole message was lost - oh so frustrating. (and surprisingly for me, it was not the kind that would have made things rougher).

 

[zahner]

lol, we already have no money for Social Security and many governmental programs. The constant media coverage tends to blow things out of proportion. In reality the amount of money spent on the search and rescue of these guys is nothing compared to the *billions* the government has wasted on other things (and not just this current administration). They likely paid their taxes in like everyone else and are entitled to this to some degree.

Flip the channel if it's not for you, that's what I do
</$.02>

 

[Pseudo]

I agree what a waste of time the story is. I think if you base jump, hike in blizzards or any other dangerous and stupid thing that you dont have to do, i shouldn't have to come looking for you. Same goes for drug addicts who OD after going to rehab (why should taxpayers pay for kidney,liver and whatever transplants for alcoholics and drug addicts??)

You take your chances and let God sort the rest out.

Kasei

 

[nycitaliano9]

Back to reefing people

 

[Salesbig]

WOW a thread of dicussing something got closed.. NO complaints.. but it got closed

but the thread of the guy asking us to sell him coral out of the country , which seemed like a scam off the bat, had to be begged to be close.

whats going on here ?
cant we discuss off topics on the nudi-bar?

We;re all adults....

 

[fritz]

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[jasno999]

Zahner- I agree but when I flip the channel I see the same thing. Every channel is covering it so it is not escapable. Good point on them paying their taxes- At the same time they put themselves in the situation they are in. We own then a search and rescue but not to this extent... The media had made it into a circus and that is why so much more is being done than normal.

Nycitaliano9 - This is the off topic forum so we do not have to talk about reefing here.

Salesbig- I totally agree with you I think we are adults and should be able to have this discussion in this forum. There is no reason to close it.

Going back to what Zahner said it is true that the government wastes tons of money. Social Security is in ruins and I am scared I will never see it yet I have been paying into it for years... There are a lot of things that are not fair and not right- I agree. At the same time I think it is about time we start fixing things. I am just sharing my feeling that this is one small thing that is wrong wit the way we operate and waste money in this country. The media controls everything and it is just not right nor is it fair. All I ask is that we come up with some rules and stick to them. We don't need to spend tons of money on this rescue, but if we do then we need to make sure that every rescue gets the same type of spending- and if we decide to go that route we will put ourselves in an even deeper and darker financial hole.

 

[nanoreefer22]

Poor lil old me didn't even know about this until I read the thread yesterday and I have yet to see it on TV.

-Kris

 

[Deanos]

We;re all adults....

Not everyone acted like an adult in that thread, hence...it was closed

 

[DevIouS]

The thread was closed because it was leading to personal comments & remarks.
It had nothing to do with the topic or being adults.
Chief is right.
I've been on the forums long enough to know where it starts to lead to.
If the topic starts going a different direction, I will close it again.


Come on Joe...
No one had to beg the other thread to be closed.
Everyone was aware.
There were actions & decisions to be made.

:backtotop

 

[jasno999]

Ok. Fair but yet not fair. If people say or do thigns that are not appripriate then they should be talked to or their posts removed- but don't take the post away from the rest of us because a few people are not doign the correct things...

Again lets just leave the post at this point. I will say one last tiem that I do feel bad for the hikers and their families. TI is a horriable situation and I wish the outcome was not so dismal. I hope people learn from it and thsi sort of thing can be avoided in the future. I think we continue searches and we continue to do what we can to save human life but I also suggest we look at our media and we look at being more fair for all our citizens. We all deserve the same expense, time and effort- and media coverage for that matter. These human beings (hikers) are no better than any other human beings and we need to remember that. The media can blur that at times.... Lets jsut be fair.

 

[junglebase]

I have a feeling this thread is about to be closed again..... :scratchch

 

[Quang]

Jasno, don't feel bad.
I've had a "MR Get Together Dinner" thread closed once...and that's sad.
I believe MR, as a site, main purpose is for reefing.
Nudibar and off-matter subjects/threads are privileges/additonal features the site moderators/creator provide for us. As a result, they have the right to take that privilege away from us. Now, if it was a reefing thread, I believe you would have a stronger case. However, this is a off-subject matter...there are a lot of other sites out there for you to express your opinions on the matter. MR does not have to serve that purpose. It can if it wants to, at the discretion of the mods. This is JMO, ofcourse.

 

[ShaunW]

Jasno, don't feel bad.
I've had a "MR Get Together Dinner" thread closed once...and that's sad.
I believe MR, as a site, main purpose is for reefing.
Nudibar and off-matter subjects/threads are privileges/additonal features the site moderators/creator provide for us. As a result, they have the right to take that privilege away from us. Now, if it was a reefing thread, I believe you would have a stronger case. However, this is a off-subject matter...there are a lot of other sites out there for you to express your opinions on the matter. MR does not have to serve that purpose. It can if it wants to, at the discretion of the mods. This is JMO, ofcourse.

Froggie I couldn't say it better myself!

Maybe we need another crazy thread that people request to have closed (remember the strike thread ), since memories seem to be short. Phil was doing preventative medicine.

 

[junglebase]

We should ask Wingo to start a "poll" thread!...

 

[ShaunW]

We should ask Wingo to start a "poll" thread!...

:lol: I need a rat update.

 

[ShaunW]

.........but I also suggest we look at our media and we look at being more fair for all our citizens. We all deserve the same expense, time and effort- and media coverage for that matter. These human beings (hikers) are no better than any other human beings and we need to remember that. The media can blur that at times.... Lets jsut be fair.

I agree with you. We are at war! Where is the reporting on that! Why aren't we allowed to see the funerals of the brave souls who are dying over there everyday in numbers that make my stomach ache. Why isn't the reporting factual. Seems like the rest of the world is more up to date than the USA, I wonder why?

Thank goodness for the internet.

 

[Deanos]

Nudibar and off-matter subjects/threads are privileges/additonal features the site moderators/creator provide for us. As a result, they have the right to take that privilege away from us....there are a lot of other sites out there for you to express your opinions on the matter. MR does not have to serve that purpose. It can if it wants to, at the discretion of the mods.

Froggie?!!? :scratchch Is that you? :hug: Thanks for putting it into a clear and concise statement.