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jf2381

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And then the manager or whatever his title is comes out and says that if they have a fourth fight the purse will be the biggest ever.
It was a decision to line people's pockets, and keep the mayweather paquiao hype going.

That's why I like the UFC motto "Never leave to the Judges"
 

LatinP

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It called promoting, these fights are all about the money and not about the sport anymore. Professional boxing has turned into championship wrestling with gloves on, wouldn't be surprised if it was all scripted down to the last after fight interview.
 

jf2381

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Even Paquiao looked surprised. At the end of the 12th round Paquiao looked defeated. Freddy kept telling him to turn it up cause he is falling behind.
I felt bad for Manny cause he got boo'd by everyone and it wasn't his fault.
 

xclusive252

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I feel it was called right Paq threw more and landed more on jabs and on power blows dont take a win away from the guy your no better then the ppl boooooing him. If you didnt know it was going to go 12 rnds shame on you they both looked in great shape and both gave it there best. I guess most of you didnt bet on Paq sry
 

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I feel it was called right Paq threw more and landed more on jabs and on power blows dont take a win away from the guy your no better then the ppl boooooing him. If you didnt know it was going to go 12 rnds shame on you they both looked in great shape and both gave it there best. I guess most of you didnt bet on Paq sry

I agree but manny seemed more relaxed and barely won the fight and was not as explosive as his past fights, but you cant win against a champ like many by pacing the ending rounds, clinching and refusing to exchange punches inside, Your the challenger!!!! not the champ! with this said the judges are garbage should not been a draw called and should have been called closer like a one pt difference. cmon man! 50+ chin shots to 10 or so thats crazy to think he was going to use that strategy. marquez could have won and would have if he didnt play defense, would have been nice to see a 38 year old champ!
 

wonderballz

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I agree but manny seemed more relaxed and barely won the fight and was not as explosive as his past fights, but you cant win against a champ like many by pacing the ending rounds, clinching and refusing to exchange punches inside, Your the challenger!!!! not the champ! with this said the judges are garbage should not been a draw called and should have been called closer like a one pt difference. cmon man! 50+ chin shots to 10 or so thats crazy to think he was going to use that strategy. marquez could have won and would have if he didnt play defense, would have been nice to see a 38 year old champ!

Agreed. Pac threw more and landed more. One of the commentators said that the"signature"hits belonged to Marquez, but Pac was fighting a smarter technical fight. Better on defense, better footwork, and more landed hits. Compubox numbers don't lie. As the challenger, he (Marquez) had to make it an obvious win. I think it was a big mistake to defend the last couple of rounds. He defi looked like he had more in the tank. He should have left it all in the ring.

I think it could have gone either way, the judge who have pac 4 rounds ahead must have been watching a different fight though. I think it was closer to a draw.


On a side note, do you think it was a mind game that marquez did the post fight interview wearing only what seemed to be a sombrero?

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marrone

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Agreed. Pac threw more and landed more. One of the commentators said that the"signature"hits belonged to Marquez, but Pac was fighting a smarter technical fight. Better on defense, better footwork, and more landed hits. Compubox numbers don't lie.

Actually stats do lie. You see it all the time in sports, teams putting up big numbers only to lose because of not getting a timely hit or turning the ball over. The same with Compubox, it don't show clean shots verse glancing shots, and total shots can be misleading too, one boxer may have a lot of punches in a one or two rounds. Clean Hard punches are what matter. Also, if you do go by stats, then Marquez should have won the first two fights, as I think he landed more punches in both of those fights.


Also, if you go by who is more aggressive, or lands the harder shots, then someone that is a counter puncher, or a boxer, will never win a fight. Judges will give rounds to the more aggressive fight all the time, even though he'll be counter and tag, and a lot of his punches will either be missed or not direct hits.
 

wonderballz

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I think most agree that without the knockdowns, Marquez could have won the other fights. Either way, they were both technical. They both had respect for each others styles and fought as such. I don't think there was a clear winner. It could have gone either way, and it was up to the judges. I think the only person who could have made a difference in the judges was Marquez. He was way too passive in the end. His corner should have pushed him to keep the pressure one. I think that was the difference.

Either way, I think I will be watching this fight again next weekend when it is on HBO. It wasn't as exciting as the previous ones, but I enjoyed it.
 

wonderballz

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Actually stats do lie. You see it all the time in sports, teams putting up big numbers only to lose because of not getting a timely hit or turning the ball over. The same with Compubox, it don't show clean shots verse glancing shots, and total shots can be misleading too, one boxer may have a lot of punches in a one or two rounds. Clean Hard punches are what matter. Also, if you do go by stats, then Marquez should have won the first two fights, as I think he landed more punches in both of those fights.


Also, if you go by who is more aggressive, or lands the harder shots, then someone that is a counter puncher, or a boxer, will never win a fight. Judges will give rounds to the more aggressive fight all the time, even though he'll be counter and tag, and a lot of his punches will either be missed or not direct hits.

I can agree with that. Stats don't always show the whole story. I'm not saying PAC won, and I'm not saying Marquez won. I'm saying that fight could have gone to either fighter and the other would have had a good argument for them self.

But seriously, did Marquez have to do the post fight wearing only a sombrero?
 

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I don't like Pac man but he did score more power punches but being Tim was pretty busy,they looked at it that way I suppose.A rematch is in the works or he'll just retire and run for government in his homeland or become a priest.lol
 

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