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Bill2":2v7cslvs said:A recent email to one of the clubs local to me brought up the action of sending some caribbean ricordia and some zooanthids to a coral farm in Jakarta. Should this be allowed? Should I not worry? What's the opinion of the group?
Bill2":3lp4bebx said:I just want to make sure that people don't think this was the club's decision. It was a person in the industry that was solicitating frags to take to Indonesia
dizzy":2560icpp said:Bill,
I think we need a little more information before we can make a judgement. What is your definition of coral farm? Is it open ocean or land based closed systems? I realize the potential harm from introduced species, but we may be applying a double standard here. I recently got a shipment from ORA in Ft. Pierce, Florida. They are culturing what appears to be Indo Pacific zooanthids and sps frags. How is that different from someone over there culturing our zoos and ricordia?
Mitch
blue hula":2woxd9xq said:Horge,
...There is also that niggly issue that if it ain't your biodiversity, you shouldn't be profiting from it without giving something back to the country/ies from which it came (UN Convention on Biodiversity)
Blue hula
horge":1od6tk5q said:That's an interesting, if anachronistically-noble philosophy, Jessica.
I don't think it'll fly because of economic globalization. Too easy for someone to set up a shell registered to/based in the 'origin' countries, then claim it's a 'local' operation profiting the locals. Creative bookkeeping takes care of the rest.
blue hula":1syjsums said:And finally, you're still left with the equity issue based on the deliberate use of and profit from another nation's biodiversity.
Cheers, Blue Hula
dizzy":2youuv04 said:blue hula":2youuv04 said:And finally, you're still left with the equity issue based on the deliberate use of and profit from another nation's biodiversity.
Cheers, Blue Hula
Damn blue,
You mean to tell us that buying cultured animals from an American facility should come with a guilt trip? I guess the neon gobies, peppermint shrimp, and sea mat are still ok to feel good about. ... But wait, what's that you say? Someone is speaking at MO that may even cast doubt on some of those claims. :evil: What's left to make a person feel good about this hobby? I'm sure glad I enjoy keeping aquariums, otherwise I'd probably just get out of it.
Mitch