Solaris H4 series

[Aqua Pro Builder]

yo talk is cheap...kakaka
build it already and I'll buy it(if is good:sgrin: )

I'll take you up on it. Please define what's GOOD-it's a relative term.

 

[MO~IDOL]

I'll take you up on it. Please define what's GOOD-it's a relative term.

Wingo don't get me wrong I've seen your DIY LED set up in person before the LED hits the market. so I know what u can do and I am very impress.
If u can build what you've stated and cheaper I am sure I'm not the only one buying it...

 

[NRA223]

I really don't care how impressive or unimpressive those lights are, $2800.00 is rediculas.:tired:

 

[DEEPWATER]

I really don't care how impressive or unimpressive those lights are, $2800.00 is rediculas.:tired:

well said

 

[masterswimmer]

dialyseas

deltec

I guess it can be a cheap DIY hobby, or it can be an expensive hobby. Not all equipment is meant for everyone.

 

[herman]

:Blurp:

 

[meschaefer]

While I will admit it is expensive(and there are other things I want before laying out 4K for a 6 foot version), I just don't see it as being over the top . You pay more upfront , with long term savings in comparative operating costs, and obtain benefits such as less heat, and a smaller envioromental impact.

The most important question to me.... will my SPS thrive with it?

 

[lunner]

The most important question to me.... will my SPS thrive with it?

:approve:

 

[PalmTree]

While I will admit it is expensive(and there are other things I want before laying out 4K for a 6 foot version), I just don't see it as being over the top . You pay more upfront , with long term savings in comparative operating costs, and obtain benefits such as less heat, and a smaller envioromental impact.

The most important question to me.... will my SPS thrive with it?

I agree with you Matt. We've dumped alot of money into so many other things.. skimmers, wavemakers, high tech pumps, chillers, CA reactors, etc. etc... I'm sure when protein skimmers first came out people were reluctant to buy them. But now that we know the benefits of a skimmer are quite valuable to the hobby people preech getting a good sturdy model that is rated twice your tank size. This may turn out to be the same Solaris or LED lights. I guess we will have to wait and see. But imagine it can save you a ton of money every month would the high price tag me work it?

 

[masterswimmer]

Imagine no bulb replacements either for at least five years
Figure two bulbs @ approx. $70 each every 10 months.
That's six bulb replacements at $140 per set.
$840 savings on bulbs alone.

The sps question is still just that in my mind, a question :scratchch

 

[meschaefer]

Imagine no bulb replacements either for at least five years
Figure two bulbs @ approx. $70 each every 10 months.
That's six bulb replacements at $140 per set.
$840 savings on bulbs alone.

The sps question is still just that in my mind, a question :scratchch

Not only bulb replacement, but remember you are buying a complete lighing system, so add in the costs of ballasts, reflectors, sockets, wiring, housing, fans, etc. etc.

 

[Aqua Pro Builder]

While I will admit it is expensive(and there are other things I want before laying out 4K for a 6 foot version), I just don't see it as being over the top . You pay more upfront , with long term savings in comparative operating costs, and obtain benefits such as less heat, and a smaller envioromental impact.

The most important question to me.... will my SPS thrive with it?

To find the answer, you have to run an experiment-(let me try this again)FUND ME for a smaller project on your frag tank. :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :tongueani :biglaugh::biglaugh: Of course, you got to keep the prototype.

 

[DEEPWATER]

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The most important question to me.... will my SPS thrive with it?

sure they willl is an expensive piece of lighting it has too :lol2:

 

[DEEPWATER]

I would say in ten months of having a successful sps tank you can triple your electric bill by selling frags

MH are KNOWN to give you a successful sps tank .stick with what is proven

 

[marrone]

While I will admit it is expensive(and there are other things I want before laying out 4K for a 6 foot version), I just don't see it as being over the top . You pay more upfront , with long term savings in comparative operating costs, and obtain benefits such as less heat, and a smaller envioromental impact.

The most important question to me.... will my SPS thrive with it?

I think if you add up the bulbs you'll find that you're not saving that much on electric. As for the heat, the unit has a lot of fans as it runs pretty hot. The small unit that they had as the frag swap used quite a bit of electric, and that was only a 2' unit.

 

[cali_reef]

I wonder if MH lighting system had these type of discussion? :scratchch

Deep, you should not knock on something you don't have experience with. I am sure you will say they are good to use if someone were to give you a set to try.
These things are expensive because they are new technology, price will drop over time, just like all consumer electronics. Reliability will also increase with their manufacturing experience. I am currently working with a lot of aircraft cabin lighting being transition to LED, all I can say is they are still being proven and it is too early to tell if the Manufacture's claimed reliability and other benefits are in fact true.

 

[DEEPWATER]

I wonder if MH lighting system had these type of discussion? :scratchch

Deep, you should not knock on something you don't have experience with. I am sure you will say they are good to use if someone were to give you a set to try.
These things are expensive because they are new technology, price will drop over time, just like all consumer electronics. Reliability will also increase with their manufacturing experience. I am currently working with a lot of aircraft cabin lighting being transition to LED, all I can say is they are still being proven and it is too early to tell if the Manufacture's claimed reliability and other benefits are in fact true.

Lighting up cabins and lighting reefs are a bit diff no ?




So let me ask you the same question ,,WIll you buy this unit for your sps tank >? if so why and if not why ?

 

[masterswimmer]

I think if you add up the bulbs you'll find that you're not saving that much on electric. As for the heat, the unit has a lot of fans as it runs pretty hot. The small unit that they had as the frag swap used quite a bit of electric, and that was only a 2' unit.

Add up which bulbs Mike? Shouldn't be much in the replacement of LED's. They're rated for 50,000 hrs.

Electric....the 2' fixture runs the LED's at 200w power consumption. A 250w MH is obvious what it consumes. The fans on the unit are thermostatically controlled. They will only come on when temps reach a certain level. Most people I know with MH's run a fan or two as well, so that should be about equal. There is zero water temp increase from this light, so it's possible that a chiller might not be needed either.

As for those who say MH is proven and therefore nothing else should be explored, maybe it would be advantageous for you to go back to the days of undergravel filters, plenums and no skimmers. Technology changes, advancements are made and without trying new things we will never progress and move forward. I guess it's like Chief said, some will be explorers and others will be settlers.

swimmer

 

[DEEPWATER]

I am sure you will say they are good to use if someone were to give you a set to try.
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You said it not me

 

[cali_reef]

Lighting up cabins and lighting reefs are a bit diff no ?




So let me ask you the same question ,,WIll you buy this unit for your sps tank >? if so why and if not why ?

Yes, they are two different extreme conditions. One deals with lots of vibration, long daily operating hours and need to be very low power consuming. Our fish tanks are humid, and you need to pack a lot of bulbs over it to get the equivalent PAR as existing proven lighting equipment, that means a lot of heat in the fixture to deal with. Different issues and I have not seen enough to "believe" the products.

I would not buy one at that price, I don't think I would spend that kind of money on something that just don't have enough track record. Like chief said, I rather let the pioneers try them and wait for the price to drop before I get on the bandwagon. The claimed power saving and saving on bulb replacement IMO is not worth the current price tag. Now if someone gives me one, I may say it is a great product at that price:sgrin: .

The built in color and dimming controller is pretty cool and you can't get one for MH at a cheaper price. You can't compar the cost of these fixtures and a typical MH fixture, these have more built in functions.