Fish for 55-65F temp water

[headlessblade]

Was up ppls :givebeer: ... I was wondering what salt water fish lives within the range of 55-65F that they sell in the LFS? ALSO how long after you put in NEW CRUSHED CORAL can u place fishes in there(currently milky white)? What temperatures does LIVE CORALS SURVIVE/anenomies?? Is a protein skimmer necessary? What about a wet/dry with bioballs? or a HOB filter(magnum250)? what temp/ph/etc do you guys normally have your Reef tanks at?

NOTE: am a real salt water newb lol i will be researching these but if you feel like givin me a shortcut lol you can answer the questions... :Starwars:

 

[Deanos]

NOTE: am a real salt water newb lol i will be researching these but if you feel like givin me a shortcut lol you can answer the questions... :Starwars:

A shortcut?! :idea: I'm so glad you asked. Here's one link:

Wetwebmedia

When you're done, come back with some new questions :p

:bump:

 

[ellebelle]

The only one I can think of is the Catalina Goby. Very pretty fish. If I recall correctly, there was a beautiful photo of reefcenter of someone with a cool saltwater tank. I think it had the inhabitants listed.

 

[crox99]

:lol2: A stripped bass.:lol2:

 

[e.muehlbauer]

There are plenty of local fish that will do well in a setup with those temps. Both Mummichogs ("killies") and sheepshead minnows are very colorful in the spring spawning season..at least the males. A short drag with a seine net may bring up small blowfish, sea robins, or toadfish, all of which are very entertaining in a cold water tank...but they will grow. You will also get pipefish, and possibly seahorses (in Jamaica Bay) but stay away from them...too difficult and demanding...and believe it or not pipefish will jump out of a tank. Stay away from small flounder and baby bass..they are regulated and below minimum size, needless to say. Inverts are entertaining too....small hermits, and especially baby spider crabs. I have a 10 gal "local" tank with a spider crab, several hermits, lots of mud snails and a few periwinkles....too small to support fish without constant water changes. Take care, Eric

 

[ellebelle]

http://www.mbayaq.org/efc/living_species/default.asp?hOri=1&inhab=440

This website is the Monterey Bay Aquarium's field guide to the bay - it has lots of cool looking fish and inverts.

 

[digitalreefer]

You'll have a tough time finding anything at the LFS for that temperature tank. I would strongly suggest reading a good book or 5 before starting your tank. The crushed coral is generally not a good way to start with saltwater, bioballs are looked down upon and unless you have a very small tank, you do need a skimmer.

Corals can survive at a variety of tempreatures... I saw some while diving in California with water as low as 50 degrees, but most of the tropical corals we keep thrive in the high 70's

You should do all of this research and planning before setting up anything. Determine what you want to keep and then plan for it. Also keep in mind that it's cheaper to heat water than to cool it.

 

[Psycho graphic]

The most impressive cold water setup I've ever seen was Steve Weast's.

This is a link to him, there are only a couple of pics of his cold water stuff. I'm sure if you contact him you could get plenty of information.

http://oregonreef.com/sub_philosophy.htm

 

[SethKim]

Hey, did you pick that tank up from a sushi restaurant??keke jk ^^

If U are gonna run a chiller to keep it @ range of 55-65 degree, shoot~ you can keep anything that comes out of Long Island Sound!

How big is your tank? automatic heater is cheaper than running a chiller.

sincerely,

 

[headlessblade]

thanks for the input.. i've been reading and was looking into making a protein skimmer, i found a few diy projects, but one of them said you need a beckett ?? and said it cost $15, i searched online but i cant find it to see what it looks like since the pics were shown when it was assembled...

Am planning like you guys said and reading... while doing that am trying to collect/make my own, equipment, since $ are an issue for me... also according to this site http://www.hawkfish.org/snailman/skimmer101.htm AIRPUMP COUNTER CURRENT SKIMMERS are the best on efficiency and effectiveness .... what do you thinK?

i was also reading this site about the beckett design..
http://ozreef.org/diy_plans/protein_skimmers/tupperware_skimmer.html

oh yea what size tank do you think would be best for a begginner? i have 2x55, 75, 2x30, 1x29, 1x20H, 1x20L...

i was thinking about doing either the 29/30/20H...
also since seth said it's cheaper to run a heater than a chiller, i guess ill do a tropical set up...

why is crushed coral bad? i like how it looks

I read that ppl have rock slides in there tanks, from stacking live rock, and i saw some ppl like stick them to the walls of the tank? wat kind of rock they stick to the glass?

 

[TimberTDI]

but if you feel like givin me a shortcut lol you can answer the questions...

Dean,
you should change your sig:
Need help or want a shortcut?

Click below:

 

[headlessblade]

Dean,
you should change your sig:
Need help or want a shortcut?

Click below:

everyone jumps on me when if said something like this, derail more plz tx you could of pm him

look at this protein skimmer wat do you think about it? it actually looks pretty cool and small wat you think?
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?s&1172052056

also is seaclone 150 good? i saw some pictures, lots of bubbles lol i doubt i can make one that does that much bubbles it cost ~$85, how come those other skimmers i see cost $900 and stuff?

 

[Wes]

i always thought it would be pretty darn cool to have a flashlight fish tank.

http://liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=1156

they are a colder water species but i imagine they are difficult since they are labeled "expert only"

The Flashlight Fish is also known as the Twofin Flashlight Fish or Lantern Fish and is recognized by having a black body with a blue hue to its dorsal and caudal fins. It has what appears to be a glowing smile due to the bioluminescent bacteria that inhabit the light organs found just below each eye.
These symbiotic bacteria are responsible for its glow, which is usually white but occasionally blue or yellow depending on the mood of the fish. These fish have an amazing ability to rotate the light organ within its socket in order to turn the light on and off. The light organ is used in several ways. The most common use is to communicate among themselves by increasing the frequency of the blink. Another use is in the form of defense, turning the light on, and then quickly off while darting away from a predator. The last use for their light is to attract food in the form of plankton as these tiny crustaceans are normally attracted to light.

Flashlight Fish make an unforgettable display in the aquarium. One interesting fact about this species is that in certain locales around the world, skippers follow schools of Flashlight Fish in order to safely navigate through reef passes at night.

This nocturnal fish is well suited for the specialized aquarium that contains other nocturnal fish such as similar sized Pinecone fish, Squirrelfish, Big Eyes and Cardinalfish. A low light tank or a tank with numerous hiding places is ideal. A small group of these fish work best, as they usually will adjust more quickly and take food easier when they are maintained together. Rarely aggressive among themselves or to other fish in the aquarium, this species fares best with very passive tank mates. These fish are extremely sensitive to copper sulfate and should never be exposed to this medication.

When first introduced into the aquarium, live saltwater feeder shrimp should be used to entice this fish to eat. A diet consisting of both frozen and live foods are ideal. These include mysid or brine shrimp as well as small fish and other meaty foods are preferred.

 

[headlessblade]

damn that would be cool but nocturnal ;( and EXPERT!!!! LOL am a total newb

 

[jawwad2004]

Dont waste your money on a seaclone. I would recommend getting the strongest skimmer possible within your budget, but since you're trying to do a coldwater tank, a low temp. might effect skimming. I am not sure, interesting time to do some research.

 

[headlessblade]

the seaclone make a massive amount of bubbles like crazy, so more surface area? so better skimming? i read the longer the reactor chamber the more time the proteins have to stick to the bubbles, but am guessing if u increase the amount of bubbles you can lower the chamber size.. erm so whats wrong with seaclone? also do other skimmers make the same kinda bubbles, more or less?

 

[Deanos]

Seaclones make big bubbles, reducing surface area when compared to quality skimmers.

 

[headlessblade]

ok so i read on WWM they are hard to TUNE and not good... but what is TUNING THE PROTEIN SKIMMER? i still dont get it..
erm but how in the pictures the tube is so white

http://www.marineandreef.com/shoppro/protein_skimmers_AS.html

the intake and the tornado thing i thought that is more bubbles..?

so a wood air stone in sump skimmer would be better than the seaclone?

erm looking at that picture it kinda looks ez to make with pvc and a reverse flow powerheadlol

 

[Deanos]

:sigh: Nevermind. You really should consider reading the link I provided to you when you started this thread.

 

[headlessblade]

I tried to but when u click the links on the page they send you to a whole other bunch of links which is kind of confusing lol

ok so i read on WWM they are hard to TUNE?!? and not good... but what is TUNING THE PROTEIN SKIMMER? i still dont get what tune is.....
erm but how in the pictures the tube is so white