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Chris5

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Well...It was about 1:30am when I heard my tank gurggle, which woke me out of a dead sleep, I knew something was wrong and than i realized it was my first blackout with the tank....:bigeyes2:....Thank god I set up my system the way I did ..It pulled through, I had mim water back into the sump and I never lost the syphon on the U-Tube somehow even though there wasnt any water goin into the overflow....

The power was off for a good hour last night :headache:and I dont think the people in my house appreciate me much today lol ..Was def not ready for that one...but As soon as the power came back on, my tank resumed where it left off, but it was a scarey hour to say the least not knowing if everything would survive if it didnt come back on until hours later....

I have a feeling there are more to come esp this weekend with forcasted temps in the 90s...Everyone and their ACs running at night will def cause 1 or 2 this weekend ...Dunno how wide scale mine was but it def was the entire block....Well good luck everyone!!! :grouphug:
 
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DEEPWATER

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Wow ,thank g-d it was for an hr only

Do you have a back up gen or usp ? atleast when the power gos off you have a PH connected to it so it will kick on in case of a black out.

good luck for the summer ,get those back up ready
 

Chris5

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Unfortunately I dont have either :shhh: just the laws of gravity working against me, but it was all about how i positioned my return outlet...just right below the water line, so mim water would syphon back down, up until than i havent had a test like that so thats why i was flipped out :bigeyes2:...and oh yea no available flashlights or nothing just my tank gurggling and all systems failed lol ....:eek1:
 

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Mine went out as well around the same time but only stayed off for about 30 minutes. I believe the blackout was for the majority of Scarsdale, Eastchester and New Rochelle. I was just getting home around that time so when the power went out I went to get my UPS and my battery that I keep the garage only to find out my father decided to use the battery last weekend for his fishing boat and left it on the boat :smash:

I was bugging out and was ready to have him pull the battery from his truck but the power went back on before he had to. I am going to Sears this weekend to get a new battery and I am hiding it in the basement :fight2:

-Chris
 

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Not sure what the difference between a UPS and USP is but the one that I have connects to a car battery and converts the power into AC. Last power outage I ran my Mag 9.5 return and my tunze for about 3 hours before the power went back on.

-Chris
 

bad coffee

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UPS/USP I'm dyslexic so it doesn't matter. (in ronen's case it was probably a typo)

a UPS is a battery backup
an Inverter is what you hook to your car and make 110v AC. Both are good options. But Do some research on which batteries are good to run indoors and which are not. Some batteries give off fumes that you don't want in your house.

I'm thinking about having a seo and a ups hanging out if I ever need them.

Or I might just go the $5.99 battery operated bubbler.

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Falco

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Got it :)

I have an inverter, not a UPS :splitspin

bad coffee said:
UPS/USP I'm dyslexic so it doesn't matter. (in ronen's case it was probably a typo)

a UPS is a battery backup
an Inverter is what you hook to your car and make 110v AC. Both are good options. But Do some research on which batteries are good to run indoors and which are not. Some batteries give off fumes that you don't want in your house.

I'm thinking about having a seo and a ups hanging out if I ever need them.

Or I might just go the $5.99 battery operated bubbler.

B
 

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bad coffee said:
But Do some research on which batteries are good to run indoors and which are not. Some batteries give off fumes that you don't want in your house.

B

I have a 700w Inverter also. The marine batteries are what they recommend. They are deep cycle batteries. I don't know about the fumes though. I was unaware of that. I'll have to do some more reading.

Thanks B

R

Edit: Ok, did a little reading on Deep Cycle Marine Batteries . There is a concern when recharging the deep cycle marine battery. Make sure to recharge in a well ventilated area.
 
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FRY

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  • A car's battery is designed to provide a very large amount of current for a short period of time. This surge of current is needed to turn the engine over during starting. Once the engine starts, the alternator provides all the power that the car needs, so a car battery may go through its entire life without ever being drained more than 20 percent of its total capacity. Used in this way, a car battery can last a number of years. To achieve a large amount of current, a car battery uses thin plates in order to increase its surface area.
  • A deep cycle battery is designed to provide a steady amount of current over a long period of time. A deep cycle battery can provide a surge when needed, but nothing like the surge a car battery can. A deep cycle battery is also designed to be deeply discharged over and over again (something that would ruin a car battery very quickly). To accomplish this, a deep cycle battery uses thicker plates.
 

FRY

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Here's How:
Locate an old or used UPS that is functioning properly. These are commonly used by people with computers to protect their systems in case of power interruptions, and to filter power dips and spikes. When the battery wears out, most people throw their UPS away because it is obsolete and they cannot obtain a replacement battery, or they may just want to get a more powerful unit.
Check the voltage of the UPS battery to make sure that it is a 12 volt battery.
Check the wattage of the equipment that you want to keep running in the case of a power outage. Check the maximum wattage output rating of the UPS. This is the the most wattage that the UPS will handle in the case of a power outage. The UPS will not handle any more wattage than it is rated for.
Purchase a 12 volt battery. You can usually find a fairly good quality battery on sale for under $50 which will serve your purposes. Generally speaking, the higher the "Cold Cranking Amps" an automotive battery is rated at, the better the battery will serve you. Automotive batteries will work well for fairly low wattage demands and short periods of usage, however a marine quality deep cycle battery will work best for higher wattages and longer periods of time.

Check the connector type on the UPS battery. Most of these connectors are the spade (flat) female type connectors. Purchase 2 connectors which will fit in the connectors from the UPS. If possible, take the old UPS battery with you when you purchase the connectors. This way, you can make sure that you are buying the right connectors.
Purchase 2 metal hose clamps. These will be used to clamp the wires from the UPS to the battery terminals. If the battery you bought has the screw type terminals, you won't need these clamps.
Cut 2 pieces of 12 gauge wire of sufficient length to go from the battery to the UPS.
Measure how much bare wire will be needed for the UPS connector and battery terminals and strip the insulation from the ends of the 2 wires to fit.
Attach the ends of each wire to each of the wire connectors.
Clamp the other ends of the wires to each of the battery terminals. If your 12 volt battery has the screw type terminals, wrap the stripped wire ends around the screws and tighten the screws.
Attach the battery terminal wires to the UPS battery wires. Black is negative, red is positive.
Plug the UPS cord into your 110 volt house outlet.
Turn the UPS on. The UPS should indicate that it is running normally.
Plug a lamp into the UPS "Power Protected" outlet. The light should come on.
Unplug the UPS from the wall outlet. The lamp should stay on. Most UPS units will emit a beep or give some other indication that it is running on the battery and not the house current.
Tips:
Check the UPS wiring diagram to make sure that you are connecting the UPS battery wires to the battery correctly.
A wire stripping tool, such as can be purchased at an auto parts store, works very well for stripping the wire ends and clinching the connectors.
If you have multiple lights on your tank, you can stretch the battery life by plugging only one light and other essential equipment into the "Power Protected" outlet of the UPS. Plug the other light and all other nonessential equipment into the unprotected outlet.
If you have only one protected outlet in your UPS, use a power strip to attach more equipment.
Once your UPS is set up with all of the equipment on and running through it, unplug the UPS from the wall outlet to make sure that everything keeps running as you planned.
What You Need:
UPS
12 volt battery (Marine Deep Cycle battery is preferred)
2 wire connectors
12 gauge wire
Wire stripping and connector clinching tool. (Optional)
 
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Chiefmcfuz

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I guess a power inverter with aligator clips would do kind of the same thing but it would be a manual switch.

Could you splice the wires from the batt to the UPS wires?
Deep Marine Batt is better to keep inside (Fumes wise)?
If you lived in an apt and had limited space which would you use Marine or car?
 

FRY

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i whould have to check on that cant remember on useing marine battery in side, ups comes with NiCad batterys,yes you can splice the wires to batt to ups.the only thing with useing a ups it will come on automatic when power fails just have min pump on it so that it will last longer, if your not home or sleeping and power fails ups will by you time,
 

Chris5

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I guess I have to do some more research on this...I also want to know whats best for indoor use only since my room is on the 2nd floor and running anything out to the car wouldnt work....

Anyone have any good links for some of these products??? :grouphug:
 
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Chiefmcfuz

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Fry The UPS Idea is awesome, and I am seriously thinking of adding the marine battery to it instead of the 7/12 batt that's there I just wanna be safe doing it in my living conditions. Also I was thinking of possibly setting up a manual one with an inverter and a battery a couple of days ago for something else.
 

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