Any fish smaller than 3/4 " ???

[Anonymous]

what a great idea. I had 3 domino damsels in my 10 gal mantis tank. They were cool. Having schooling fish would be even more fun to watch. (even more so than three damsels staying away from a mantis. . .)

How I would love a school of N. Helfrichi

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[John_Brandt]

Man, I would be willing to spend so much for a school of those... John, are most of the members of those genera native to Japan?

Dewman, which fish on that page were you looking at specifically? I know at least a few of those are commonly available.

Matt,

Those genera are widespread throughout the Indo-Pacific, Indian Ocean, Red Sea, Hawaii. But many of the species have localized distribution. It just happens that many Japanese UW photographers specialize in the beautiful and unusual fishes that are in their region (esp. Southern Japan and Okinawa). I have been complaining for years that the trade rarely includes these fish. They are fairly common and easy to catch but seem to be ignored by the collectors and exporters. I believe all of these are in the 2" and smaller size range.

Trimma macrophthalma by John Randall.

Trimma taylori by John Randall.

Trimma tevegae by Robert Patzner.

Trimma sp. by Mitsuaki Takata.

Trimma caudomaculatum by Mitsuaki Takata.

Trimmatom sp. by Mitsuaki Takata.

Trimma tevagae by Mitsuaki Takata.

 

[Anonymous]

Well, I hope this works

 

[Anonymous]

For many years I've prefered small fish, but they just dont import them.

I've had to settle for Catalina's and okinawae gobies

 

[John_Brandt]

Knowse, that looks like a native killifish. Fundulus or Adinia sp.?

If you provide a sharp picture we might be able to positively identify it. They would be difficult to market to most hobbyists because they are not colorful.

 

[Anonymous]

Bingo, it seems every time I read about people trying to create a school of Nemateleotris, they end up winding down to one fish. They seem like such a peaceful fish, but I guess they're fairly territorial amongst congeners. N. magnifica sounds like the worst of the bunch.

 

[liquid]

For many years I've prefered small fish, but they just dont import them.

I've had to settle for Catalina's and okinawae gobies

Mega: you might want to check with JT on IRC. SDC may get them in and could point you to a retailer near you where they ship to. That's how I got my Apogon cyanosoma...

Link: A.cyanosoma @ Fishbase.org

Shane

 

[Anonymous]

As far as I know none of the retailers here get anything from SDC, I've asked all the ones I shop at.

 

[liquid]

Jt's got a database of retailers, which is how I found a place that orders from them.

Shane

 

[Anonymous]

none

 

[Anonymous]

Shane: aren't those fw rainbows?

 

[Anonymous]

I have Apogon leptacanthus which are pretty small and school mid water.

Liquid- I was thinking about those for my FW tank; it never occurred to try full SW, but I guess you could.

Check this out: http://www.oddballfish.com/tropical-fish/

 

[skylsdale]

I get tired of the "bandwagon" feel this hobby takes on. I'm sick of tangs. I'm tired of clowns. I don't care about grammas or dottybacks.

With hundreds of different (and much cooler looking) species of cardinals, why do we only get Pyjama and Banggai?! Why don't we ever see triplefins?! It's ridiculous.

 

[liquid]

Shane: aren't those fw rainbows?

Blue eyes to be exact. They are found anywhere from pure freshwater to complete marine environments.

http://members.optushome.com.au/chelmon/Pseudomugil.htm

Shane

 

[Anonymous]

Just out of curiousity, how was John able to post that many pics in a single post? I thought the limit was three....

 

[liquid]

John's stuff is linked in from an outside server -- not as an attachment.

Shane

 

[John_Brandt]

Shane: aren't those fw rainbows?

Blue eyes to be exact. They are found anywhere from pure freshwater to complete marine environments.

http://members.optushome.com.au/chelmon/Pseudomugil.htm

Shane

Very interesting Shane. I never thought about putting them in a marine aquarium.

Poor Man's Flasher Wrasse :wink:

 

[Anonymous]

I am probably getting some of these guys for my FW, but if I get offspring I might try transitioning the to SW.

Shane: You know anybody keeping them in full SW long term?

 

[liquid]

One I wouldn't mind hearing about is if anyone has kep those Figure 8 puffers in full marine tanks:

P.connieae might not be the best choice altho is is mentioned that some have been collected from brackish water environments:

http://members.optushome.com.au/chelmon/Pseudomugil.htm

Habitat: They are generally found in small, clear, relatively swift-flowing freshwater streams. Temperature and pH in these streams range from 24-27° Celsius and 7.7-7.9. However, in 1982, Heiko Bleher reported that he had collected them in brackish water in the lower section of the Popondetta River.

Some that are listed as being found from FW to full marine environments:

P. connieae (FW - brackish)
P. inconspicuus (FW - marine)
P. cyanodorsalis (FW - marine)
P. signifer (FW - marine)

The rest seem to prefer soft FW areas w/ high loadings of vegetation.

Dan: I know of one guy that's kept P. inconspicuus, P. cyanodorsalis, and P. signifer in a full marine (reef ) tank and he had pretty good luck w/ it. Here's a post I made to RML about it and a reply:

Yes, In a tank with stilt root mangrove seedlings and other small marine mangrove gobies along with P. inconspicuus. I took the cover off the protein skimmer intake and it ate the little fish. One day I will borrow another boat and go get some more from the harbour.

Dave

On 18/11/2003 0:52, "Shane Graber" wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, has anyone actually done anything like this (keep
> P.signifer or P.cyanodorsalis in a reef tank)?
>
> Shane

Shane

 

[John_Brandt]

... and FishBase says that P. signifer is not from marine habitats. Go figure.

"Occurs in clear, cool, fast-flowing streams and also brackish mangrove estuaries."

http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Spe...50&genusname=Pseudomugil&speciesname=signifer