Does this fish have a disease?
- Thread starter gnatp2
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- Forest Hills
yes
1st :quarantine him
2nd: read this http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/treatments.html
3rd: choose a treatment plan.
1st :quarantine him
2nd: read this http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/treatments.html
3rd: choose a treatment plan.
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Well, after further investigation it appears that pretty much 1/2 of the fish in the tank have a little bit of ich on them. Is it even worth quarentining all of them? Or is there a way to treat the entire tank? (I have several different corals/inverts in the tank so I know that copper or hyposalinity is not an option). I've read that there are other "reef-safe" solutions, but I'm wondering how effective they truly are.
Any advise? thanks,
Nate
Any advise? thanks,
Nate
anything that you will put on your tank will just hurt it .you must take out all your fish and QT them for at least 4 to 5weeks with no fish in your main tank ,Ich needs a host ,it will die off within 4 weeks so we say going for 5 to 6 weeks .JMO
Good luck ,I would do this asap ,one question howw many fish do you have and what size tank do you have
Ronen
Good luck ,I would do this asap ,one question howw many fish do you have and what size tank do you have
Ronen
BRUTAL!!
Well, the tank is a 120g that I've had set up for the past year. I currently have it fairly heavily stocked with fish so throwing all these guys into a 20g tank for 6 weeks won't be an option for me. Right now I'm thinking just to take out the few worst looking fish and throw them in a 20g treated with copper meds and hyposalinity.
Is this just a waste of time? or is it completely necessary to take all of the fish outta there?
Thanks,
Nate
Well, the tank is a 120g that I've had set up for the past year. I currently have it fairly heavily stocked with fish so throwing all these guys into a 20g tank for 6 weeks won't be an option for me. Right now I'm thinking just to take out the few worst looking fish and throw them in a 20g treated with copper meds and hyposalinity.
Is this just a waste of time? or is it completely necessary to take all of the fish outta there?
Thanks,
Nate
Its a waste of time take it from me. You need to take them all out of the tank. The ich will simply remain in the tank and when you put back your quarantined fish they will get ich all over again. It will be over and over like a broken record trust me
- Location
- Long Island, NY
Yup, I agree. If you just take out some fish, the parasites will hang out on the available fish, then reinfect the clean fish as soon as they are back in. However, it shouldn't be too expensive to buy a few 10g tanks (a few 10g are cheaper than a 20), some sponge filters ($5 a pop), heaters and an airpump and keep the fish all out of there. Certainly cheaper than buying all new fish... Or, just check craigslist or something and get a cheap 55g, and do teh same with a few sponge filters.
Good luck and keep us posted--
Christine
Good luck and keep us posted--
Christine
michael stern
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- new rochelle
I agree. And, if the whitecheek is any indication, they have it BAD. Time is definitely of the essence. Otherwise, you WILL start to lose fish.
Best of luck.
Best of luck.
Thanks for the info guys.
The current plan is going with a 55g tank and throwing all of them in there. I'm heading to the nearest LFS and picking up some Copper treatment and a 55g with my ehiem ecco hooked up for filtration.
The next trick will be getting em all out of the tank without destroying the corals.
All the fish are currently acting normally, except the whitecheek is hiding a tad more than normal. We'll see how he looks when I get home tonight.
More updates to come.........
NAte
The current plan is going with a 55g tank and throwing all of them in there. I'm heading to the nearest LFS and picking up some Copper treatment and a 55g with my ehiem ecco hooked up for filtration.
The next trick will be getting em all out of the tank without destroying the corals.
All the fish are currently acting normally, except the whitecheek is hiding a tad more than normal. We'll see how he looks when I get home tonight.
More updates to come.........
NAte
I'm not an expert but this has worked for me in the past.I have an oversized UV lamp and I run it rated for 500gph and I turn it on at about 200 gph.then I over dose with garlic extreme Like double or triplew the dose.I also crush garlic and take the fresh juice and put in the tank.This has worked for me with no adverse effects....then again if using this method use it at your own discretion.
I just did it again because some of my blue Tangs came down with it the day before yesterday and yester day the fairy wrasse got it also so did it today and it looks like its clearing ...will make closer inspection later to see if its working good and post results here.
I just did it again because some of my blue Tangs came down with it the day before yesterday and yester day the fairy wrasse got it also so did it today and it looks like its clearing ...will make closer inspection later to see if its working good and post results here.
- Location
- Long Island, NY
For getting them out--try netting them at night, hours after the lights have gone out when they're sleepy. Otherwise what has worked for me in the past is getting some big garbage pails and a pump and draining the tank, netting the fish off the bottom, then filling the tank back. Believe me, it seems like a pain but it is a lot faster and less stressful to all the tank inhabitants than chasing fish around with nets for hours 
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- Location
- The Big City
If your going to use Copper make sure you get a good copper test kit. If you don't treat at the correct levels it's just a waste of time as it will have no impact on the parasite, also high level of copper can and will kill your fish.
- Location
- Kew Gardens Queens
in the past Ive used "kick-ick" and have had no problems with it. At the time I only had polyops and mushrooms. It says reef safe I bought it at the lfs in queens.
Good luck
Good luck
Well I came home and he's dead.... Not only that but my blue reef Tang isn't looking so hot either. I'm deperately trying to run around and get a 55g tank. Sent an email to a guy on craigslist and hopefully he'll get back to me soon.
Right now I'm trying to get the other fish into my 5g bucket and at least start treating them in there.
Nate
Right now I'm trying to get the other fish into my 5g bucket and at least start treating them in there.
Nate
And another one. The carribean reef tang has bitten the dust now. Now he is actually in an IMPOSSIBLE place to get him in the aquarium. He was about 2" long. Would it be ok to leave him in the tank and just let him decompose? I know this isn't ideal, but I figure that he might be small enough that I could get away with it. Would the ich be able to live off of him for a few weeks though?
This sucks my a,
Nate
This sucks my a,
Nate
srry for you losses
If your tank is heavily stocked that may be causing a prob with ich as well.(stressing out the fish)Try to limit your tank to less fish,this way the fish have places to hide at night ,not fight over terriory ..Reducing stress in your tank will also reduce the risk of ich .JMO
Ronen
If your tank is heavily stocked that may be causing a prob with ich as well.(stressing out the fish)Try to limit your tank to less fish,this way the fish have places to hide at night ,not fight over terriory ..Reducing stress in your tank will also reduce the risk of ich .JMO
Ronen
- Location
- NY
Sorry to hear about your losses. The advice given already pretty much sums up my opinions too.
As you can see, ich will spread extremely fast and can wipe out your tank in no time. It is unbelievably urgent for you to remove the fish and set up your hospital tank as the ich parasite is now prolific in your system.
Once the fish are removed, leave that tank fallow for AT LEAST six weeks.
GL and keep us posted.
swimmer
As you can see, ich will spread extremely fast and can wipe out your tank in no time. It is unbelievably urgent for you to remove the fish and set up your hospital tank as the ich parasite is now prolific in your system.
Once the fish are removed, leave that tank fallow for AT LEAST six weeks.
GL and keep us posted.
swimmer
All right guys, the hospital tank is set up and nothing else has died yet. I'm seeing a few more spots on some of the fish and others are looking better. I fed them some Kent garlic extract soaked food and it does help on some of the fish... I think this may have bought me a day with some of the fish.
I'm currently using a ghetto fish trap. It's a margarita mix bottle with the back end cut off and fishing line attached to it to create a door. I'm hanging this sideways in the tank with some bait in it. So far I've gotten 2 of the fish. I'm worried how I'll get the goby's in the tank. hopefully I'll just be able to put it at the bottom of the tank and they'll climb in..... although i'm very skeptical.
Here are some pics of the trap:
Wish me luck.
I'm currently using a ghetto fish trap. It's a margarita mix bottle with the back end cut off and fishing line attached to it to create a door. I'm hanging this sideways in the tank with some bait in it. So far I've gotten 2 of the fish. I'm worried how I'll get the goby's in the tank. hopefully I'll just be able to put it at the bottom of the tank and they'll climb in..... although i'm very skeptical.
Here are some pics of the trap:
Wish me luck.
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