We all agree, cupramine is the way to go, to cure fish from ich

[marrone]

The reason that some fish can seem to fight it off is because of how a lot of reef tanks are setup. Everything from high flow, overflows, filter bags, and corals and things that eat the Ich spores can have a play in keeping the Ich population down in a tank. Because these things do help the population from booming, after the Ich falls off, fish don't get as infected again, or in some case not at all. Also, over time some fish do develop immunity against the Ich, or just can live with much lower infestations of it. Then again there are some strains of Ich that just wipe out tank very quickly.

 

[mbg75]

Ich doesn't usually kill the fish right away. It takes a heavy infestation.
This is why most people can get through it without qt.

Get velvet in your tank and you'll learn to qt very quickly.

 

[ducati335i]

i cant believe people still think that ich is like a cold or they can get it if they are stressed.. i'll say this 50000000000000 times... come to my house, put any of my 12 tangs in a 5 gallon tank.... lets torture it and see if it gets ich.. wont happen. the fish must have it already.. once treated unless reintroduced, it wont get it..

so if anyone wants to bet at least 2000 grand come by and give me your money....

 

[albano]

so if anyone wants to bet at least 2000 grand come by and give me your money....

Do you have the 2000 grand in cash?

 

[Sgterie076]

Hospital tank

I introduced a Powder Blue without QT and he came down with Ich a week later. Tried Ich X and garlic, it got better but then it got worse. Lost 4 fish.
So I decided to stop the nonsense and set up a hospital tank and started treating my remaining 7 fish with Cupamine. My display will be fishless for 8 weeks. (Gives me time to focus on coral and inverts)
I learned my lesson and will QT all new fish for 30 days.

Don't use a bandaid for a gunshot wound. I believe if one fish has Ich then they all have it. The only way to get Ich out of your tank is to go fishless for 8 weeks. I will let you know in 7 weeks.
Good luck

 

[LongIslandAndy]

do you have the 2000 grand in cash?

+1

 

[Paolissimo]

Since I started the thread, I get a cut of the bet!

 

[under10minutes]

Imo this no cure for ick only treatment ime the way to combat ick is with trying to keep the infected as stress free as possible i beleive many if not all fish carry the parasite the fish that get seriously infected are the ones with low immunity i think quarantine will add stress to an already weak specimen entice feeding with selcon and or garlic and hope your fish will overcome the parasite it is already in your system only a strong healthy fish will be able to survive an outbreak

I agree with this 110%. I currently have 4 tangs and the powder brown has ich pretty bad. The rest of the tangs are as fat as can be and strong as oxens. Ick free.

 

[ca1ore]

i cant believe people still think that ich is like a cold or they can get it if they are stressed.. i'll say this 50000000000000 times... come to my house, put any of my 12 tangs in a 5 gallon tank.... lets torture it and see if it gets ich.. wont happen. the fish must have it already.. once treated unless reintroduced, it wont get it..

so if anyone wants to bet at least 2000 grand come by and give me your money....

OF course, in the absence of the parasite, regardless of how stressed a fish is it won't get ich. Question is whether a healthy fish, in the presence of the parasite, can fight it off without intervention. Anecdotal evidence suggests the answer to this question is yes.

I QT almost all new fish for 8-12 weeks, and prophylactically treat Tangs and some others for ich, velvet, etc., and to get them healthy and strong; yet I suspect my display has ich. I have a hippo who occasionally shows a few spots, yet recovers and no other fish are affected ..... Maintain top water quality, feed well, high flow, UV, skimming, loads of pods and corals .... And I think you have a chance to manage ich.

 

[ca1ore]

Do you have the 2000 grand in cash?

Isn't 2000 grand $2 million?

 

[Paolissimo]

Well after about 20 days, the title of this thread should be changed, because obviously we DON'T all agree that cupramine cures ich. My purple tang is fully cured, not a white spot on him. From the people that shared their thoughts on ich and my personal experience, to me it seems that diet and overall health of the fish, is the primary "cure" for ich. If you fish is healthy, most likely it will fight the parasite. My tang is very healthy, and so are the other fish. So why did he get ich in the first place? I think it was introduced from a small colony that I bought. Since it seems that tangs are more prone to ich, the parasite attached to my tang. Feeding quality food, to me is the easiest and cheapest way to prevent the parasite from killing your fish. Quarantining the fish, should only be used to feed the fish and strengthen its overall health, medicine would only add to the stress in my opinion. Will the ich return? It might, I don't have a UV in my tank, but I am confident that my tang will fight it off. I guess the moral of the story is, introduce only healthy fish (i know not as easy as it sound), if you can set up a quarantine tank, use it to feed the fish quality food and strengthen its overall health.

 

[marrone]

Healthy fish not only get Ich but die from Ich all the time. So, yes a healthy fish maybe better able to fight Ich off but it doesn't make a difference most of the time once Ich has been introduced into the tank. If a fish has Ich then treating it, either with Copper, Hypo or even the transfer method, is in the end less stressful than leaving the fish in the tank with Ich, which is continuously being attacked with no where to run.

The moral of the story is to QT all of your fish and not introduce Ich into your tank in the first place. No Ich, then no problems.

 

[Nottick]

Healthy fish not only get Ich but die from Ich all the time. So, yes a healthy fish maybe better able to fight Ich off but it doesn't make a difference most of the time once Ich has been introduced into the tank. If a fish has Ich then treating it, either with Copper, Hypo or even the transfer method, is in the end less stressful than leaving the fish in the tank with Ich, which is continuously being attacked with no where to run.

The moral of the story is to QT all of your fish and not introduce Ich into your tank in the first place. No Ich, then no problems.

Don't forget then you have to qt all of your corals also correct? 6+ weeks in a system with no fish for the ich parasite to die off