maxspec led

[Chiefmcfuz]

Maybe Wingnut can help explain a little bit on this.

 

[solos2]

Ok from what I have been calculating with the wattage. Something doesn't add up

Royal Blue CREE XR-E has voltage of 3.3Vf ? see link: http://www.ledsupply.com/creexre-rb.php

As per manufacturer information 3W Royal Blue driven current: 700mA ? see link: http://www.lck-led.com/p704/MaxSpect...duct_info.html

Therefore 3.3 x .700 = 2.3W

if you do the math than 160W in reality is about 120W.

Could someone please help clarify this for me?

Standard Maxspect G2 units are using Semi LED, you're quoting Cree's spec however, it's comparing apple with oranges.

im interested in what chief is saying.if thats true who know whats what.i am sure they arent trying to rip anyone off but if you are buying a fixture for the wattage that they are saying and things fail cause the math is wrong whats the use of buying it.can someone look into it.

Actual power drawn from a G1-160w fixture:

 

[Chiefmcfuz]

What are the PAR readings at 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 inches in a tank that is full?

 

[E.intheC]

I've been reading the thread on RC for a while.. but my main question (in addition to Chief's above) is .. what is the actual price? I've seen everything from $205 for the g1-110 all the way up to $400 shipped for the group buy (g2, but same fixture).

I also read that shipping from the fish website listed was around $150.. (We need a US distributor here)

 

[knugenx]

I will be personally bringing back a few different units next month on my upcoming trip...I'm willing to display them at the swap if I make it back in time, unless there is already something setup where people who already have them are willing to share.

 

[newbie_newbie_new]

E.intheC - as far as i can tell, the prices on fish-street.com are the current "retail" prices for these fixtures, but to get the effective final price for us in NY, you need to add them to your cart and see how much shipping is. when i checked, the So-Cal group buy prices were better when you factored in shipping.

i'm pasting in the prices from the group buy thread at http://sfvreefers.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=announcements&thread=24&page=1
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****Note: Shipping included in prices.****
G2-180w: (15.7”x7.0”x1.8”)
Web store US$ 630 each
Group buy US$ 570 each

G2-160w: (15.7”x7.0”x1.8”)
Web store US$ 580 each
Group buy US$ 510 each

G2-110w: (15.7”x7.0”x1.8”)
Web store US$ 440 each
Group buy US$ 400 each

G2-170w: (31.5”x7.0”x1.8”)
Web store US$ 760 each
Group buy US$ 670 each

G2-230w: (31.5”x7.0”x1.8”)
Web store US$ 982 each
Group buy US$ 810 each

 

[knugenx]

Those prices look steep...I know someone here just picked up one + shipping for way lower than that. Sorry, I can't release the name of the person, unless he/she decides to comment on this.

 

[greenstreet.1]

OK everyone working on a Brooklyn link for those maxspect leds will let you know by weekend

 

[newbie_newbie_new]

as a side point, i've been trying to follow the different LED threads on RC and MR and have been so frustrated just trying to get good comparative data. it just seems like nobody is comparing apples to apples, when it comes to LED vs MH vs T5, or comparing different LED's to each other. it's especially confusing when you get people with an agenda (monetary or ideological), since they seem to rig things their own way.

even this article (http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2010/2/aafeature2) left me disappointed because the most relevant showdown turned out to be between a 250W MH and a 110W LED fixture (guess who wins?).

with respect to the maxspect lighting, this comparison performed just yesterday (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1767811&page=26) seems to be somewhat satisfying. it looks like the G2 160W can hold its own against a 250W MH setup *IF* you factor in the fact that LED's can be placed much closer to the water. i think that this is an important factor that is often overlooked (and undertested) in the LED vs MH debate.

i for one would like to see more tests like this that factor in realities such as hanging distance.

ultimately, what i really care about is this.... given a limited budget (spread out over a few years, but including initial equipment costs, energy costs [including cooling], repairs, and bulb replacements), which lighting solution will lead to the best growing and best looking coral? my hunch is that right now it's a wash, but given the rate of technological innovation with LED's vs MH, eventually it will make sense to switch. it would just be nice to know when to pull the trigger.

 

[newbie_newbie_new]

knugenx: oh that would be nice to save a few bucks... names aside, do you know how much they paid (and for which model)?

 

[solos2]

What are the PAR readings at 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 inches in a tank that is full?

Photos here:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1767811&page=18

Oh and Jeremy's tests on page 26 is awesome too.

 

[Chiefmcfuz]

Let me make something perfectly clear, I am not panning this light, but as with all of these new LED fixtures the terms that are applied are very different than what most of us are used to. I just want things explained to me in every day terms instead of technical jargon so I can first and foremost understand what people are talking about and also so I can provide proper lighting situations for my tank. So if my questions seem to mistrust the manufacturer they are not meant to, they are to help clarify things for me and others who are a little lost.

The thing I like about this company is they say "This light is equal to This light in MH terms" If more sites did that it would be very helpful.

 

[emps]

Just got a chance to post up some pictures of the light.

Our mini group buy included Alan from Reef Creations so if you guys want to see it in person, buy something from Alan and see it in person :lol2: Think he may be bringing it to the swap too.

And I'm with you Chief, I'm not the technical guru with LEDs, it just looks better than my Nova Extreme Pro's and I get the shimmer I missed when I had MH's on my 55g. I didn't get the florescence at night that I do now too. I'd take a pic of that but it I cant the lighting right.

 

[Reefs Creation]

As Tony already mentioned, we did a mini gb recently. Just got my maxspect 110w couple of days ago, and I am very impressed with it. Their customer support is top knotch. Just to clarify, I am not affiliated with maxspect nor have the intention to distribute them. This is all end users feedback on their product. I was going to use it to replace my 150w de sunpod on my shallow 12in High, 24in long, 12in wide sps frag tank, but figured I ll try it out on a 40 breeder (36x18x16high) lps/softies frag tank instead. I know they recommend it to be used for 2 feet area, but I raised mine 9 inches above water and seem to cover a 3 feet tank nicely. I know I should be losing par by raising the fixture, but I can get more coverage, and since its mainly for LPS, it should work fine. If anyone would like to check it out, I will be at the swap using this fixture. Here are some pictures I took with a point and shoot camera. Hard to capture the actinics in pictures, but its really nice in person. Enjoy.

 

[saltygeek75]

As Tony already mentioned, we did a mini gb recently. Just got my maxspect 110w couple of days ago, and I am very impressed with it. Their customer support is top knotch. Just to clarify, I am not affiliated with maxspect nor have the intention to distribute them. This is all end users feedback on their product. I was going to use it to replace my 150w de sunpod on my shallow 12in High, 24in long, 12in wide sps frag tank, but figured I ll try it out on a 40 breeder (36x18x16high) lps/softies frag tank instead. I know they recommend it to be used for 2 feet area, but I raised mine 9 inches above water and seem to cover a 3 feet tank nicely. I know I should be losing par by raising the fixture, but I can get more coverage, and since its mainly for LPS, it should work fine. If anyone would like to check it out, I will be at the swap using this fixture. Here are some pictures I took with a point and shoot camera. Hard to capture the actinics in pictures, but its really nice in person. Enjoy.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW That is HOOOOOOT
Im comeing by this weekend

 

[NYreefNoob]

guys if everything seems good with these in a month or so id like to get a gb going on them, chit half the price of others and as i said i have been following these for awhile on rc, maybe these are whats needed for some of the other companies to drop some of their pricing

 

[henrye718]

There are group buys going on 2 past already. I ordered the 160W model should be here in week, there is another GB going on to its been anounced already.

here is some good info on these lights...


http://sfvreefers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=maxspectledlightingsystem&action=display&thread=27

 

[henrye718]

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1803879&page=5

could have sworn the same GB is on this site too cant find the thread now!?!?

 

[juiceguy]

that thread was deleted on RC

 

[emps]

yeah it was deleted, but there's a new info thread with some pics in their lighting forum so all the techie geeks can chat there about specs.

We got decent gb pricing even for our 3 units but it's alot easier when the 2 other people are friends and theres less organizing.

Alan, think I need to come by for that big green acan frag or the striped one. haha