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cmantis

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I need some help networking my controller to the outside world. I know 'how' to do it and have done it before but this situation is a little more difficult given the internet arrangement where I live. I am hoping someone with some real experience here can let me pick their brains.
 

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Well I am thinking I might need a router but was trying to use ICS. The building uses wifi for the most part but there is an ethernet jack although I am not sure if it is switched or not. I can use ICS and get access to the controller but I can't port forward because no access to the router. I had two computers hooked up independently to the wireless and one had an IP of 192.168.137.1 and the other 192.168.153.1 (or something like that). I scanned for open ports but almost all are closed. I did share a port over ICS that was open which worked locally. However obviously doesn't work over external IP (which is all the same). I tried forcing the port from external IP to the wireless IP but that didn't work. Don't know if unpn would work. Right now I am working on getting access to another network.
 

cmantis

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Thats what I am thinking I will have to do. I am going to test the ethernet jack when I get home and hopefully isn't switched but very good chance it is. Otherwise I may have to borrow some local wireless and try to unpn through it.
 
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This is similar to the issue I have trying to use the Apex on my tanks which are located in my office on Pratt campus. The campus firewalls don't allow port forwarding. They have agreed to set up a VPN tunnel for me so I should be able to gain access that way, but it isn't set up yet. FYI I am simply parroting what I am told as I have no real clue about any of this. :)
 

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This is similar to the issue I have trying to use the Apex on my tanks which are located in my office on Pratt campus. The campus firewalls don't allow port forwarding. They have agreed to set up a VPN tunnel for me so I should be able to gain access that way, but it isn't set up yet. FYI I am simply parroting what I am told as I have no real clue about any of this. :)

Your gonna need to vpn to somewhere and then deal with port forwarding there..ugly but better than nothing...
 

lnevo

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Why? He'll be on treated as if he's on the LAN after the tunnel is established.

A tunnel is exactly that a tunnel...it needs to end up somewhere... so wherever he tunnels to he will still need port forwarding enabled unless he's just trying to access from home. It doesn't just open up to the internet (that would just be a port forward...which they don't allow)
 

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A tunnel is exactly that a tunnel...it needs to end up somewhere... so wherever he tunnels to he will still need port forwarding enabled unless he's just trying to access from home. It doesn't just open up to the internet (that would just be a port forward...which they don't allow)

Once the tunnel is established, his device/computer will assume a local IP on the VPN interface. The network will see him as a device on the LAN. There's no NAT, so not sure where the port forwarding comes to play.
 

cmantis

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I checked the ethernet wall jack and it is also switched. I don't really understand the ip designation instead of 192.168.1.xxx it is being designated 192.168.xxx.1 for both wireless and wired. The external IP's are one off between wired and wireless so I assume they have a separate account for each. I tried Upnp to force a port open but it 'couldn't find a router'. Im not sure at this point what more I can do besides try to get access from an outside wireless signal and gain access to the router.
 

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Once the tunnel is established, his device/computer will assume a local IP on the VPN interface. The network will see him as a device on the LAN. There's no NAT, so not sure where the port forwarding comes to play.

+1 An established VPN tunnel will give him local access to the remote network. That is, put him behind the firewall of the campus. So there is no need to port forward.
 

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I checked the ethernet wall jack and it is also switched. I don't really understand the ip designation instead of 192.168.1.xxx it is being designated 192.168.xxx.1 for both wireless and wired. The external IP's are one off between wired and wireless so I assume they have a separate account for each. I tried Upnp to force a port open but it 'couldn't find a router'. Im not sure at this point what more I can do besides try to get access from an outside wireless signal and gain access to the router.

Without access to the router to open the port you are out of options.

You can leave your computer on and use a third party remote viewing software but I'm sure thats not what you are looking for.
 

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