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Anthony.Luciano710

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Idk if you can see in the pic but the acrylic is very thick. Its almost unbendable. And no I don't think it would put more stress on the seems because there's still the same amount of water it's just going down a pipe in the corner. And I'm sure we can figure something out if it gurgles to much.
How much water will your overflows handle? how do you know?

Does corner mounting like you plan to do put uneeded stress on the thank? will the seams handle that?

How will you stop the gurgle in the overflow? do you have baffles in it for that?

Do you realy need your box to be that thick from front to back?

Im not saying it wont work, infact they look pretty cool. if it wasa 40breeder i wouldnt worry a bit. however, you have alot of surface area that is alot of water pushing against your box. would it not be worth it to spend a little more and have piece of mind knowing its tried and true and well tested. to know what size pump it will definetly work with.

I think its great you are willing to take the time and redo the system to get ti right. i just dont see the point of cutting corners on something so cheap.

not saying Do it liek I say... just saying think about it alittle more.
 

tosiek

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Im not going to comment on anything else because I value my sanity and I stopped reading after the first page of the train wreck that you caused yourself and wasting everyones energy typing responses to your rediculous mishaps that would not have happened if you 1. didn't rush and 2. listened to the right people and 3. weren't so thick headed and thought you knew better.

I will comment on the LED fixture because your sheet of aluminum idea and the fans aren't the best. Its wrong, the LED's won't be cooled properly, and those LED's will be worthless in 1-2 years as far as usable light for any higher light coral. Whoever told you you don't need to cool the aluminum sheet is wrong (maybe with a properly vented hood yes). Since your already wasting so much money doing everything else wrong spend the money and get a heatsink and properly vent the stupid light.
 

Anthony.Luciano710

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i know plenty of people with the leds on an aluminum sheet and they've been working fine for more then 4 years. and they've been running fine ever since then. and 6 fans on the fixture is fine but im adding more just in case. also im thinking about water cooling it but thats just an idea probably not going to happen.
Im not going to comment on anything else because I value my sanity and I stopped reading after the first page of the train wreck that you caused yourself and wasting everyones energy typing responses to your rediculous mishaps that would not have happened if you 1. didn't rush and 2. listened to the right people and 3. weren't so thick headed and thought you knew better.

I will comment on the LED fixture because your sheet of aluminum idea and the fans aren't the best. Its wrong, the LED's won't be cooled properly, and those LED's will be worthless in 1-2 years as far as usable light for any higher light coral. Whoever told you you don't need to cool the aluminum sheet is wrong (maybe with a properly vented hood yes). Since your already wasting so much money doing everything else wrong spend the money and get a heatsink and properly vent the stupid light.
 

Imbarrie

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Couple things.

Draining the tank and starting over is a great thing. Enables you to take a few vital steps back and go slower. You are doing a lot of things right, just doing some of them too quickly.

Those overflow boxes look fine. The water is only going to drain as fast as the diameter of the bulkhead. When you silicone the boxes into the corner it will give you a lot more surface area for supporting the drains inside the tank. The plumbing outside the tank is still being supported by the bulkhead, just as the other overflow box.
With the homemade ones you can adjust the water in the tank to the top of the overflow box, wherever you place that. With the store ones, it looks like it depends on where the hole is drilled.

I like them.
 

Anthony.Luciano710

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oh and secondly im tired of everyone calling it a train wreck. everyones lost fish when they started. i got ich and lost 2 fish. i had a problem with my temperature so i fixed it. what makes you people think its a train wreck theres nothing wrong with it. and because of all you people saying all this stuff about my tank i got so pissed off im tired of this website now that i came for, for help and al everyone does is criticizes. many other well respected members on this site have told me the same thing and one day i will find out and now i have. its because of all the people bashing me all day long that caused me to waste all this money restarting the tank just to make you guys stop its annoying now idc what anyone thinks. everyone does different things and different stuff works in other peoples tanks. my tank was successful no matter what you people say because obviously you don't know my tank as well as i do and i had so much coral of all different types and they were all growing so well i was even able to frag a few and then everyone comes along saying so much stuff about how bad the tank is when they dont even know whats going on. so everyone just stop saying this nonsense because you don't know what is going on and bashing me isn't helping. i should just listen to what a lot of people have told me and to stop using MR and switch to reef central where people dont criticize back and forth and has a more helping community. the only reason i stay with this site is because is local but now im really considering because of the amount of people i see dont even like helping they just like criticizing. and i think some of its out of jealousy because im only 15 and i can get this big of a tank with such high end equipment. and something else that shows jealousy is when jkedra posted his ideas on a 2000 gallon aquarium in his 5 million dollar house because within 10 minutes there was so many comments saying how he doesn't know what hes doing and it will never happen and so much bashing all out of jealousy. now if no one has anything nice to say then dont bother visiting my successful 125 gallon reef tank thread.
Im not going to comment on anything else because I value my sanity and I stopped reading after the first page of the train wreck that you caused yourself and wasting everyones energy typing responses to your rediculous mishaps that would not have happened if you 1. didn't rush and 2. listened to the right people and 3. weren't so thick headed and thought you knew better.

I will comment on the LED fixture because your sheet of aluminum idea and the fans aren't the best. Its wrong, the LED's won't be cooled properly, and those LED's will be worthless in 1-2 years as far as usable light for any higher light coral. Whoever told you you don't need to cool the aluminum sheet is wrong (maybe with a properly vented hood yes). Since your already wasting so much money doing everything else wrong spend the money and get a heatsink and properly vent the stupid light.
 

James

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a lot of people have told me and to stop using MR and switch to reef central where people dont criticize back and forth and has a more helping community.

This just might be the funniest thing I have ever read on MR. I literally spat my drink out when I read that. Anyway Anthony, good luck. Sounds like you have got it figured out. I think if you are happy with your tank then you shouldn't let haters like Tosiek and others who clearly have no idea what they are doing tell you what you are doing is wrong. If you have fragged corals and they are growing in your tank then clearly you have it down. I will not be commenting anymore that is for sure. Good luck with the carbon source dosing too, sounds like you are almost ready to give it another go with more success once you get the 125$. As my students say, haters gonna hate. Don't let their jealousy for your hard earned tank ruin your experience here. Take care, best of luck,

James

(btw, why are all these idiot haters calling this thread a trainwreck?)
 

Jkedra

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and something else that shows jealousy is when jkedra posted his ideas on a 2000 gallon aquarium in his 5 million dollar house because within 10 minutes there was so many comments saying how he doesn't know what hes doing and it will never happen and so much bashing all out of jealousy.

Umm...If you guys wanna fight over this bashing stuff...I really ask that you dont include me in it. I have nothing to do with this argument. Thanks!
 
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Take it easy young fellow. MR should not be your only source. You should research all the advice you're given to make sure it is right for your setup and goals. Show grit, and don't be hasty. Some general principles: research, test, be patient (your dream system will not be achieved overnight), oh yeah and treat your livestock with respect. Don't let your emotions get the better of you and you will come out of this a better person and a better reefer.
 

Anthony.Luciano710

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now im 95% sure that was sarcasm but if it's not then thank you for seeing my point.
This just might be the funniest thing I have ever read on MR. I literally spat my drink out when I read that. Anyway Anthony, good luck. Sounds like you have got it figured out. I think if you are happy with your tank then you shouldn't let haters like Tosiek and others who clearly have no idea what they are doing tell you what you are doing is wrong. If you have fragged corals and they are growing in your tank then clearly you have it down. I will not be commenting anymore that is for sure. Good luck with the carbon source dosing too, sounds like you are almost ready to give it another go with more success once you get the 125$. As my students say, haters gonna hate. Don't let their jealousy for your hard earned tank ruin your experience here. Take care, best of luck,

James

(btw, why are all these idiot haters calling this thread a trainwreck?)
 

Anthony.Luciano710

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+1 i think this site would be much better if people helped out a little instead of just criticizing everything. new reefers do. i wish these people would just forget all my mistakes and start fresh again just like im starting my whole tank over again. so theres no need to bring back old stuff like saying i read the first page and its a train wreck... i mean its the first page the tank was a few weeks old what do you expect.
Take it easy young fellow. MR should not be your only source. You should research all the advice you're given to make sure it is right for your setup and goals. Show grit, and don't be hasty. Some general principles: research, test, be patient (your dream system will not be achieved overnight), oh yeah and treat your livestock with respect. Don't let your emotions get the better of you and you will come out of this a better person and a better reefer.
 

James

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I can't help but be a little sarcastic, if you decide to stay on MR and not leave for greener pastures (which I promise RC is not, I have been a member there for 2/3s of your life) ;), you will see when you meet me. As for the content of what I said, that remains true; if you are happy with your tank do not worry about what people say. As I have said before, most people here mean well but get frustrated when they see you post things that dismiss their advice and seem like you think you know it all. Take it all with a grain of salt, research from a variety of sources and follow the things that prattreef told you. THE BASICS are what you need now, 2 months does not an experienced reefer make. Weekly water changes, weekly testing, going SLOW adding all animals and seeing how they affect your tank... that will get you on the right path. Forunato helping you and restarting the tank is a great idea and you are on the right track but you need to research the advice you receive and not just believe it because "there are a lot of ways to run a successful tank." Seriously, good luck. And if you stay and have a healthy tank in 12 months from now, I promise to donate a nice frag for your tank.

James
 
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Anthony.Luciano710

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ok thanks for the advise, and about switching to rc i just said that because i was pissed off. but yes now im restarting the whole tank ill take some pics. because were draining all the water redoing everything and then im going to recycle the tank while he holds my fish. now i want to add more sand. but since im recycling and everything do you think its a good time to just stir up the existing sand like crazy to get all the excess nutrients out then add new sand of should i just leave it the way it is. also im moving all the electric under another stand. i know this sounds crazy but all my life my mom wanted seahorses and always talked about the,. thats another reason that got me into this hobby. so on day in the future i plan to add a seahorse tank and with the plumbing were even adding T valves to the overflow and return with valves for whenever i add the seahorse tank so i can plumb it right in. but before i even think about that i need to get this tank running.. i just have to build the stand because my idea was that the big stand will be all filtration and the little 20 gallon seahorse tank stand will have all the electric including the 12 drivers for the leds. do you think this is a good route to take?
I can't help but be a little sarcastic, if you decide to stay on MR and not leave for greener pastures (which I promise RC is not, I have been a member there for 2/3s of your life) ;), you will see when you meet me. As for the content of what I said, that remains true; if you are happy with your tank do not worry about what people say. As I have said before, most people here mean well but get frustrated when they see you post things that dismisses their advice and seems like you think you know it all. Take it all with a grain of salt, research from a variety of sources and follow the things that prattreef told you. THE BASICS are what you need now, 2 months does not an experienced reefer make. Weekly water changes, weekly testing, going SLOW adding all animals and seeing how they affect your tank... that will get you on the right path. Forunato helping you and restarting the tank is a great idea and you are on the right track but you need to research the advice you receive and not just believe it because "there are a lot of ways to run a successful tank." Seriously, good luck. And if you stay and have a healthy tank in 12 months from now, I promise to donate a nice frag for your tank.

James
 

James

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I think that sounds like a fine idea man but get the main tank up and stable for awhile before worrying about seahorses. :) As for the sand, that is your call, I personally would vacuum the hell out of it and add more and then just let the rock and the sand and the tank cycle again, throw in a piece of squid or cocktail shrimp and let that thing get funky for about 5-6 weeks. Then you will test your water, then you will add a fish when your water is ready and then you will test again in a week to see the effects of feeding the fish on your water quality. If your parameters are good go ahead and add your other fish, SLOWLY and noticing what the fish (and more importantly the food you add) does to the water quality. The hardest part of this hobby is being patient. By the time the spring swap rolls around if you go nice and slow you will be able to stock up on some corals and KNOW that they will do well because you are going to be testing your water weekly between here and april.... ya feel what I am saying? Get to really know your tank through the whole process and do it right the first time (1.5 in your case) and you will save money and headache in the long run. Don't put the cart before the horse, 1 step at a time and you will be a fine reefer before you know it. As everyone says in this hobby "nothing good happens fast in a reeftank"

-James
 

Anthony.Luciano710

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ok thanks for the advise. im predicting that this cycle will be kind of short because im still using all the same rock and stuff so its just the ammonia from the shrimp and all the sand being messed up that will really cycle it again but Fortunato will be holding the fish. once its cycled. i dont know what im going to do with the blue damsel. i dont want to risk putting him in the tank this time because i can see his aggressiveness. but what about the other 2 fish the yellow tank and the hippo tang. whens its done cycling do you think i could put them back in. the hippo tang is only about the size of a quarter. and the yellow tang is about 3 inches. once i see the nitrites start going down i think i will take them back from Fortunato and quarantine them with copper for like 2-3 weeks just to make sure i dont get ich in the tank again.
I think that sounds like a fine idea man but get the main tank up and stable for awhile before worrying about seahorses. :) As for the sand, that is your call, I personally would vacuum the hell out of it and add more and then just let the rock and the sand and the tank cycle again, throw in a piece of squid or cocktail shrimp and let that thing get funky for about 5-6 weeks. Then you will test your water, then you will add a fish when your water is ready and then you will test again in a week to see the effects of feeding the fish on your water quality. If your parameters are good go ahead and add your other fish, SLOWLY and noticing what the fish (and more importantly the food you add) does to the water quality. The hardest part of this hobby is being patient. By the time the spring swap rolls around if you go nice and slow you will be able to stock up on some corals and KNOW that they will do well because you are going to be testing your water weekly between here and april.... ya feel what I am saying? Get to really know your tank through the whole process and do it right the first time (1.5 in your case) and you will save money and headache in the long run. Don't put the cart before the horse, 1 step at a time and you will be a fine reefer before you know it. As everyone says in this hobby "nothing good happens fast in a reeftank"

-James
 

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