now that i thnk about it, the dip doesnt sound so smart...well its been dipped...i also also lost my hawkins, so you are right about the smooth skinned ones going first =( i had to chio away anothet inch today...but my tank is slowly recovering. to make things worse, i woke up 3 days ago and my tank was alll cloudy and glass full of algae!!! the bio pellet reactor stopped working, no clue why..pumo was on but al the pelets were clumped. after fixing that, i noticed my skimmer going yonkers, had to drastically reduce my wster level in sump to orevent skimmer from overflowing..a lot of froth being collected, water is slowly clearing up ...and all my lev3ls are fine...its like when it rains, it pours in this hobby!!! anyone else go thru this? the reactor didnt work for 1 night!!! and all this!?!