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Pedro Nuno Ferreira

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I wouldn't worry about it Pedro, no matter how you look at it he doesn't live in New York.

Unicorn,

You should update your profile. We have alot of members who live in Ct. and if you update your profile there may be somebody local who may be willing to help you out by holding livestock etc. etc.

Hi and thank you maeschaefer for the clarification;-)
Well I want to learn, so this time I got 92,4 miles, 1 hour and 49 minutes drive...is this the place ?

Also, from what is stated in the profile, its a "She" and not a "He"...correct?

Cheers
Pedro Nuno ;-)
 

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I have been following this thread in the 9 seconds I have had free over the past day or so and I would like to make this same post one more time.

My reasoning is the following... IF Unicorn had a REAL nitrite reading of 5, the fish would be LONG dead.

Unicorn chose to throw out the AmQuel+ AND the API test kits (no sense in that part as there was probably nothing wrong with them...see post below) to stop him/herself from using them again (??)...

I will stand by the advice I have given in the post below and again suggest that Unicorn should begin reading about this hobby starting with the basics.
You might want to start with this article in Reefs Magazine..
http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/reefs-magazine/46182-did-i-say.html
...and advance from there. The resources here on MR and on the Web are staggering in regarding to learning the basics about SW fish keeping.

My earlier post..
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ok you guys i have not used any chemicvals today but i contacted amquel + kord:irked:eek:n comp.... i spoke with there DR .something lol and he told me that amquel dose not interfier with the nitrifing bacteria in my tank he said that i could continue to use it and that more than likely my liguid test is faulty and can not properly test the water!!! he thinks that if my nitrite levels were really 5.o ppm my fish would already be dead he said if my fish were eating and did not apear stressed not to worry. he recommended a water test kit of course from kordon .

iam verry confused and i dont know who or what to listen to i know you guys have so much more experience than i do so iam not going to use chemichals to rid of nitrites because according to the great DR at kordon my tank is cycled and iam just getting a faulty reading

? is this man crazzy
? iam i crazzy lol
?could he be right and my tank is cycled and i just need a new test kit?
? has anyone come across this problem getting faulty test using amquel+
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YES! This is exactly why I asked specifically which if the 2 products you were using.
Aside from the obvious differences, the BIG issue with Amquel+ is the FACT that the usual array of tests kits that are purchased are useless when you use this product.

I must agree that the person you spoke with at Kordon is correct. As long as some of the Amquel+ product is still in your tank (going to be a long while before it is totally out of your system), you will only get proper readings for Ammonia, Nitrite & Nitrate using the test kits they make.
Their kits are different in that the reagents are usually in tablet form and more than 1 tablet it necessary to run each of the tests (if you do decide to purchase them, please follow the directions carefully).

My advice to you would be to keep up with your regular water changes, pitch the Amquel+ in the garbage, don't overfeed and enjoy your tank! I would break down and get their kits though so that you are able to find out exactly where your parameters are.. an expensive lesson learned :(

Not sure if I asked earlier, but do you have a rodi unit?
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High quality filtration systems used to purify tap water before it is mixed with salt or added to the aquarium for evaporative top off. Most municipal water supplies contain unacceptable levels of Nitrate, Phosphate, Lead, Chlorine, Copper etc. It is critical that these impurities are removed as some are toxic to reef organisms and others fuel algal blooms that can quickly overtake a reef display. Again, there are many brands and many configurations to fit most applications.
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I continue to believe that this tank IS in fact cycled for the reason stated above.

Then again, this is from a post from Unicron earlier today:
well i know that i should take out my livestock but i really just have so much going on right now to travel to bring my fish anywere and i feel that i want my tank to cycle with live stock!

I will say that even when I'm overwhelmed by work/life things I don't get confused about what state I live in...are we in Denmark?? Sure smells like it....lol
 

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Hi and thank you maeschaefer for the clarification;-)
Well I want to learn, so this time I got 92,4 miles, 1 hour and 49 minutes drive...is this the place ?

Also, from what is stated in the profile, its a "She" and not a "He"...correct?

Cheers
Pedro Nuno ;-)

You got it, but depending on where he is in Connecticut it could be alot closer than that from New York City.

As a point of reference (excuse me if I am being overly simplistic), the United States is divided into 50 States, which the best I can tell is sort of like the 18 Districts in Portugal. New York City is located at the very southern tip of the State of New York. Connecticut is another State, that is immediately to the east of the southern end of New York.

This is a Map of the Northeast United States. New York is abbreviated with an "NY", while Conneticut is abbreviated with a "CT"

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Pedro Nuno Ferreira

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You got it, but depending on where he is in Connecticut it could be alot closer than that from New York City.

As a point of reference (excuse me if I am being overly simplistic), the United States is divided into 50 States, which the best I can tell is sort of like the 18 Districts in Portugal. New York City is located at the very southern tip of the State of New York. Connecticut is another State, that is immediately to the east of the southern end of New York.

This is a Map of the Northeast United States. New York is abbreviated with an "NY", while Conneticut is abbreviated with a "CT"

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Hi meschaefer ;-) and thank you for your detailed explanation

Cheers
Pedro Nuno ;-)
 

UNICORN

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Updtae

hello eveyone well i just did a 5% water change the fish are still alive thank god

i havent done a nitrite test or any for that matter this week so iam going to waite a few more days to go out and buy new test hope fully when i do those test my nitrite levels should be low i mean come on now iam going on 9 weeks lol:irked:
 

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Unless you are going to purchase the test kits that Kordon suggested, you will contimue to get skewed results from the new kits.
The Amquel will be in your tank for months unless you change out the water completely (which is NOT suggested while you are cycling or in such a new tank).
Please get the Kordon kits so that you will truly know what your parameters are.
 

UNICORN

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Happy Happy Joy Joy

:iamwithsthello guys i just tested my tank for nitrites and iam happy to say that my levels are going down ..

nitrite .50 p
temp 78 dg
salt 1022
ph 8.4

so it seems that my tank is on its way
live stock is still alive and feeding
iam hopeing that in 2 weeks or so i should be ready to add more fishys yheaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lol

thanx to all of your honest and helpful advice :tongue1:xoxo
i will keep you updated
 
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UNICORN

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adding corals????

well you guys my tank is doing well my levels

salt 1023
ph 8.4
nitrite 0
nitrate ? not tested today
78 dg

150 gph.
full spectrum lighting 12 gallons

well iave done some resarch and i want to add a water pump & maybe a skimmer to my tank in two weeks or so so i can add a coral

i know that i have to test for calcium & phost?
iam aware that i need to add elements to my water to improve conditions for corals

please i know my tank is not the best set up

but i know it can be done !!!

? what size water pump should i get to add to this tank gph?
? what size skimmer should i get ?
?what should i do to prepare the water to optimal condition?
& what should i test the water for?
?what is a good coral to start off with?

note : i will be using sea water sold in petco because i dont have rodi unit

i shop at petco alot so if you can make your recomindations for pumps & skimmers from there please

iave included a updated pic of my tank
http://www.manhattanreefs.com/gallery/files/4/5/0/8/picture_235.jpg
all of your help and pactince is appriciated :birthday::iamwithst
 

Pedro Nuno Ferreira

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Hi Unicorn
your tank looks good, although that gravel can become easily a nitrate and phosphate "factory" as it allows for detritus to be trapped and accumulate.. Please do not add anything to the tank other than RO water for evaporated water and sw for water changes as this sw will provide all what the tank needs. Please concentrate in choosing and buying a skimmer which ideally should have three times the capacity to skim the volume of your tank, as this will provide the adequate margin to assure good and effective skimming, otherwise you could easily run out of skimming capacity. Also as soon as possible buy at least a three stage RO, ideally a five stage RO unit, it is very important, and once you get it, the waste water can be used to water your plants, or fill a fish pond, or water to clean the floor...it doesn't have to go to the drain.
Keep on checking the levels of ammonia, nitrite, pH and salinity.
As for the gravel we will think and tel you of a way to progressively replace it, but not yet.

Cheers
Pedro Nuno;-)
 
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UNICORN

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thanx

i will definatly want to know how to remove this old stuff iam thinking to let it simmer for two more weeks then slowly start swampping the old with new sand i donno ?

i am woundering how many gallons per hour should the water pump be !?
and i dont have a rodi unit but iall be using ocean water from pet co insted
 

Pedro Nuno Ferreira

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i will definitely want to know how to remove this old stuff iam thinking to let it simmer for two more weeks then slowly start swapping the old with new sand i donno ?

Hi Unicorn
For the time being just leave it as it is in order not to disturb the biologic cycle. Don't think about it now, in due time this issue will be addressed.

UNICORN said:
i am woundering how many gallons per hour should the water pump be !?

This is not a linear subject as there are many variables that may influence the needs, still from what you showed us in the picture the 150gph are enough. Usually and as base one recommends some 10 times the tank volume, but this may vary significantly depending on the tank shape, live stock, rock work...so for now 150gph looks good, and if not sufficient then it can be changed any time.

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UNICORN said:
and i dont have a rodi unit but iall be using ocean water from pet co insted

Put it along with the skimmer in your priority list before anything, namely corals, so you do not get corals before you have these two equipments. The evaporated water has to be replaced with adequate freshwater, hence the RO unit. Do not use tap water as it contains harmful elements.

Cheers
Pedro Nuno ;-)
 

UNICORN

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Thanx Pedro

iam so upset that i have the crushed coral but i know enough not to touch the gravel at this point .

i will take your advice i will get a skimmer and maybe a small 65 gph mini rio water pump

i know that a rodi unit is a must iave seen them advertised for $160 but i dont know if it was any good so if you have a link for me it would help

thanx to your previous link i saw that it was possible to adapt my tank for corals with time pactince and more equipment lol

xoxoxoxoxoxxo youve been great thanx a million mhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:tongue1:
 

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While your tank is still new you should replace the crushed coral substrate for sand.

Remove the crushed corals a small portion at a time and replace it with sand. This should be done over a couple of days.

If you are using dry agronite sand rinse it thoroughly and it shouldn't cycle when placed in our tank.
 

Pedro Nuno Ferreira

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iam so upset that i have the crushed coral but i know enough not to touch the gravel at this point .

Hi ;-)
don't be as your several weeks to late for that. Next time you ask first and read as much as possible about. ;-)

UNICORN said:
i will take your advice i will get a skimmer and maybe a small 65 gph mini rio water pump

Nice Girl :) you do that and the mini pump can always be of use either as an emergency replacement pump or to correct/improve the water flow in a needed point.

UNICORN said:
i know that a rodi unit is a must iave seen them advertised for $160 but i dont know if it was any good so if you have a link for me it would help

Ideally you should get a 5 stage RO as the two additional stages will remove nitrates and silicates...bellow some links for 3, 4 and 5 stage RO

RO Units

UNICORN said:
thanx to your previous link i saw that it was possible to adapt my tank for corals with time pactince and more equipment lol

xoxoxoxoxoxxo youve been great thanx a million mhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:tongue1:

Just be a good reefer and a good Girl and you might one day do something like this with 8.32g Nano Reef ....and have a Pepsi as I know you like it ;-)

Cheers
Pedro Nuno;-)
 

UNICORN

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Iall Be A Good Girl

even though i appriciate everyones advice i agree with papi pedro

my tank had issues i overdosed my tank with chemicals and dum stuff in the begining

so pedro i will be a verry good girl and let my tank even finish cycleing and recover from the #%@ i put in it so iam not touching the gravel

lets not forget guys i just got over my nitrite spike my nitrates are probably crazzy wakky now but one thing at a time


hopefully my nitrate levels will level off by this up comming weekend

and once my nitrate levels off then iall install my skimmer and so on

so for now iall just be a good girl ...........:splitspin
 
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