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Have anyone seen the movie "The Cove"? It is amazing that the Japanese government is allowed to get away with such activities!!! Why is the Japanese still the only country in the world that still hunts whales and dolphins??? If you seen this movie, you get so mad!!! It also shows how helpless we are and we are all doomed!!!

I already donated to OPS to try to help. I'm a member of GreenPeace and Sea Shepherd already. Maybe we all can do something before it is too late for our kids!!
 

tosiek

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Sad to say, this issue is alot bigger than just throwing alot of money at OPS. Aside from the political and financial stuff, the locals mindset on their views towards whales and dolphins need to be changed. Things like that don't happen quickly and that's by far the biggest driving factor on why its still happening aside from $$. If you have oldschool grandparents or parents you know how stubborn they can be with certain things.

It took brazil over 30 years to stop sea turtle poaching through their sea turtle conservation program. The reason it finally happened was that they started teaching school kids the importance and informing people on the issue, 30 years down the line when they grew up they morally knew better.
 

Alex

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Saw this for the first time the other night, one of the most disturbing things I've seen in a while. It's interesting to see that it is done because its part of Japanese culture, yet most of japan doesn't have a clue when interviewed.
 

ZANYMASTER

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I suppose both but if they do choose to continue and the dolphins are depleted,what are they going to substitute the dolphin with?They're using Dolphin meat in South East Asia as bait for fish and the Dolphins are dying of infection.Breaks my heart
 
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I agree that its a matter of waiting for the culture to catch up, and reject the use of whales and dolphin. Apparently this is already happening in much of Japan. However, my understanding (haven't seen the movie yet...says "long wait" on Netflix) is that this is a very local tradition, and local communities are more resistant to change. However, much of the whaling "tradition" in Japan dates back to the post-WWII emphasis on the use of whale meat as a major source of protein, promoted my Gen. Macarthur.
 
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I have promoted people to watch the movie so that we can really understand what's going on about the idea of "Japanese hunting whales/Dolphines." Make sure you watch the WHOLE movie, not just bits and pieces like in the Youtube. Original ideas and facts of the movie will be mended to suit the view of a youtube poster when watched in pieces.

There are many misconceptions of the public while some are very valid.
1)In the movie, it clearly states, the Cove killing is caused by a bunch of "thugs" who get some corrupt local officials to help but not the general view/acts of the
village and government.
2)In the movie, as in any killings, the scenes are horrific.
3)In this movie, it does not say the older generation of Japanese locals there view killing/eating dolphines as their cultural stuff. Many locals interviewed do not even know about the killings of dolphine. The meat just show up there and people start to consume them as just another product-that is, removing them from the shelve cause no traditional/custom confrontation. The super market sells them because some fishermen sell them the products. The junior high school uses them as a regular food because some corrupted officials are with the thugs. It's the two lower level officials who exposed the evil acts of their superior officier-this is in fact against the general traditions of Japanese to not obey their superior.
4)In the movie, the meat or eating dolphines is actually a by-product of how the whole thing started. It's the ocean parks that pay BIG money(many times over the price of dolphine meat) per dolphine that inspire the thugs to collect them. The ones not chosen are then killed to sell as food. Trainers around the world knew how the beloved ocean park animals are collected. It's supply and demand model much like the drug ring. That's why the creator of "Cove" the movie said he regreted to have started the TV show Flipper causing a wild spread love towards dolphines and causing so many ocean parks to buy them as very high price. Do you remember what reason, the creator of the movie said about why Seaworld stopped the funding of this movie? Do you remember he filmed a lot of the ocean parks trainers shopping the dolphines just hour(if not minutes) before the killings?

5)It also showed that Japanese government is slow to react to such issue or even can be called stubborn to correct such criticism.

Facts other than shown in the movie:
1)Japan is NOT the only country who hunts whales/dolphine
2)Japanese is still using funny excuse for their hunting of whales and dolphines.
3)As long as there is demand and money, people will exploit the situtation.


As to conclude, according to the movie, the killings IS NOT A LOCAL TRADITION in the Cove!
 
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Alex

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In the movie it states that the meat is sometimes sold as whale meat. it also states that the concentration of mercury is a major concern, since the meat is misrepresented when sold. He used several dolphins in the flipper show, one of which he claims committed suicide.
 

aznt1217

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The Cove was a great documentary style film. As many mentioned it's rather unfortunate that the IWC barely does anything.

What you should check out is Whale Wars and whaling in general.

Although there are other whaling countries, it's the fact that it's so blatant and ridiculous. Japan should really be punished and suffer for its disregard for the planet and laws.
 
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Although there are other whaling countries, it's the fact that it's so blatant and ridiculous. Japan should really be punished and suffer for its disregard for the planet and laws.


I feel the same
but....

Even though blatantly defiant, and since whaling is consider fishing, punishing Japan is almost impossible because most countries who can incite such a sanction of something are also conducting excessive fishing.

Japan will retaliate by publicising each ones' evil deeds. Check out how one single trip(that's couple months) of one single industrialized ship from an EU country can harvest 10/20 years worth of an islands base community output in Asia. Just one foreign industrialized ship kills a whole community's survival for 10/20years in Asia! This is not just disgard for the planet but also human rights to live!
 
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aznt1217

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I feel the same
but....

Even though blatantly defiant, and since whaling is consider fishing, punishing Japan is almost impossible because most countries who can incite such a sanction of something are also conducting excessive fishing.

Japan will retaliate by publicising each ones' evil deeds. Check out how one single trip(that's couple months) of one single industrialized ship from an EU country can harvest 10/20 years worth of an islands base community output in Asia. Just one foreign industrialized ship kills a whole community's survival for 10/20years in Asia! This is not just disgard for the planet but also human rights to live!

Although I went slightly off topic (going off The Cove). Punishing Japan isn't impossible it's just that nobody has the balls to do it.


I was referring to specific actions Japan is taking in the Antarctic waters. Japan's whaling is completely illegal but they utilize a loophole of whaling for "scientific research" as a smokescreen and have a quota of killing 1000+ whales per whaling season (every year). Also keep in mind they are whaling in a whale SANCTUARY.

Not arguing but exposing some facts that many people do not know about :splitspin
 
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JonnyIce

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I believe Japan and Iceland are the only places where whaling is legal as to a previously stated point. And a lot does have to do with cultural backgrounds. I was in Iceland a couple of years back and the locals love eating whale meat...maybe it's a macho feeling I don't know. It is tasty though! :-X
 

aznt1217

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Finning sharks is a Chinese thing. I absolutely hate my people for that.

Whaling is illegal my friend. It's only legal for "scientific research."

To JonnyIce's comment- Please do not eat whale meat regardless of where you go even if it's a touristy reason. The only reason why whaling still exists is because of the profit involved in it. It's all about the dollars. Each whale can fetch at least a million dollars. The best way to fight it (more immediately than any others) is to not support the industry.

The only people that have been having results are the Sea Shepards. They are a controversial conservationist group, but you know what... the Japanese asked for it. If nobody else is going to stop it then who will. They were able to deter the Japanese from reaching their 950 Minke whale quota to 650 in Season 2 of Whale Wars.
 

JonnyIce

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Trust me, it was a French restaurant and 85% of the tables were eating whale. Every night I asked the native concierge where to eat and he was always like 'do you want whale?' and I said no...the fifth night, I finally decided to try it. The second time I had it was in arctic Norway on a boat...and they didn't tell me what it was...but it was the lunch of the day, so I'm not gonna starve on a boat :)
 

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