What do you think about the hikers in Oregon (Mt. Hood)?

[jasno999]

What do you think about the hikers in Oregon (Mt. Hood)?

Seems like these guys are getting a lot of air time and I don't understand why. Don't get me wrong I feel bad for them and I think it is a horrible thing for them and their families to have to go thru. As the same time they are hikers who are well aware of the risks and they accept those risks every time they go out.

On top of that people go missing, die and get lost every day in this country. Why don't we talk about all of them?? Probably because we don't have that kind of time. What I am saying is those things happen every day- why is it that these 3 hikers seem to be getting so much attention???

Last but not least I hate to sound harsh but it seems like a lot of energy and money is being wasted on this rescue. I think we should look for them and I think a rescue effort is a good thing. However there is a point at which I think it goes to far. Like I said before they are hikers who took a risk in tryign to hike a mountain. Why are we now spending huge sums of money on a rescue effort- putting plans in the air and people on the ground? Granted many may do it voluntarily but not everybody does it voluntarily. And every time a plane goes in the air who do you think is paying for the gas and the maintenance. (The tax payers).

I just feel like if we are putting all of this money into it we as the tax payers should then have more of a say as to where hikers can and can't go....

Basically what fires me up about the whole thing is that there is a lot wrong in the world today. There are many places in this country were we could use improvement and I think we have a lot of good opportunities to make things better by putting money into the proper things. This is not one of those things. Harsh? Maybe. However why spend tens of thousands of dollars (maybe even a million when all is said and done) to look for 3 hikers when we could improve things like education, poverty, etc.????


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[Deanos]

I believe they're getting alot of airtime here in NYC because one of them is from Brooklyn. Rescues like this happen, but we don't usually hear about them in the mountains of NYC.

 

[Tonyscoots84]

Wat were u thinking posting this thread..... who cares how much airtime there getting its keeping the citizens informed on such a great attempt to find them and how much people lay down to come to there rescue... i hope they are found and rescued... and dont mind it being on tv.. :dead:

 

[jasno999]

im down to only one tube of it... gotta message someone who has em :biggrin: i try not to lose mine..

Wat were u thinking posting this thread..... who cares how much airtime there getting its keeping the citizens informed on such a great attempt to find them and how much people lay down to come to there rescue... i hope they are found and rescued... and dont mind it being on tv.. :dead:

I care because I am tired of hearing about it. This is not about keeping the public informed it is about ratings to the TV stations. I never said I did not want to see them saved or see them live. I think the entire situation is horriable and I hope they make it out of this.

However stuff liek this and stuff that is worse than this happens each and every day, yet it gets no airplay. People go missing, get kidnapped, get killed all the time. But you don't don't hear about it most times. I jsut want things to be fair for everybody. YOu know as well as I do that we do not go to this extent for everybody. Wht I mean is that every time a person goes missing we don't spend this much time, effort, money and air play trying to find them. I jsut think all citizens of this country should be given the same effort. This is unfair to all the other people out that they are missing...

These hikers took a risk and they knew they were taking it. THey made a lot of bad decisions and ended up in a horriable situation. I hope they make it but it looks dim at this point. I am jsut tired of the airplay and I am frustrated with how much attention is being given to these 3 people over the rest of the people in need in this country.



And why are you guys tryign to take over this thread with thsi other crap you are talkign about? Create your own thread.

 

[TimberTDI]

I am interested in the story. As a matter of fact that the first thing I listen for on the AM radio stations.

The reason it's getting so much coverage is because it is a story of human determination. That no matter how minute the chances these guys could still be alive. That their will to live and to see their loved ones, gets them through the most trying ordeal of their lives. It's the same thing as when coal miners get trapped or when those poor Russian sailors died on that submarine.

Steven.

P.S. Also please keep in mind that someone on this board may be related to one of the hikes in someway. You never know, it's a small world.

P.S.S. So, Josh you got any glue left?

 

[Tonyscoots84]

And why are you guys tryign to take over this thread with thsi other crap you are talkign about? Create your own thread.

it was done on purpose because this thread is not cool at all and should of never been created... if you didnt catch on fast enough they started talking about the glue because of that .... before making a new thread i would think how it would affect a community of people like we are... and were a damn great community.. .. if you got a problem take it up with the tv station we dont want to hear about it :irked: :thanks:

im done here so if a moderator will chose to do so please close this half minded thread :thanks:

 

[bad coffee]

Someone brought up a valid argument and you guys sidetracked the thread. Why did you do that? So you don't care about the hikers involed. Have some respect and just don't post in the thread.

I've never understood the "I'm conquering NATURE" mentality of climbers. The mountain will be there well after we're dead. There's no 'conquoring.'

B

 

[DevIouS]

if you got a problem take it up with the tv station we dont want to hear about it :irked: :thanks:

im done here so if a moderator will chose to do so please close this half minded thread :thanks:

Speak for yourself. No need to include "we"...
Being a member, he is also part of your "community"
He brought a topic to the nudi-bar forum & has a right to post.
There is nothing negative or disrespectful in his post.
If you don't agree or can't relate to the topic, move on. Why bash?

 

[jasno999]

Thank you Devious and Bad Coffee you both understand the reason behind the post. I did not start the post to disrespect anybody or be mean. I am not doing anything wrong only speaking the truth. And the simple truth is that the media has made this into what it is. Things like this happen all the time but never make it to the media so why did this one.

TO me the difference between these hikers and the coal miners is a big one. The coal miners have hey don't go into the mines for pleasure... The hikers went out to do this not as a job but as for fun. They made several mistakes like not knowing the forecast for the mountain. They also chose the hardest assent point and did it at the worst time of the year when there are frequent storms and harsh weather... They went into this knowing the risk, looking for fun and not to earn money for their family. Does that make them less important people? No. But I feel worse for the guy who gets trapped in a mine due to a freak accident than I do for the guy who gets stuck in a snow storm because he put himself there on purpose....

I am sorry but I just feel like there is too much attention being given to this. I also think we are wasting way too much money in trying to find these hikers. Money that could be used elsewhere where it could help more people...



Tonyscoots84 --

You may not like the post but that does not mean it is not a valid post. You just don't want to accept the other side of this. We all want these guys to make it out alive. But you have to realize that there are consequences involved. IF we did this type of search for every person that went missing in this country our taxes would be so high that none of us would be able to afford to live.

What about the people who have children go missing or loved ones that get kidnapped?? How is it fair to them when they do not get the same amount of resources and money to search for their lost family members???? I just think everything should be fair.

 

[Salesbig]

Well I think if there was something other to report on, they would.. Nothing else seems to be happening in the world, so they are reporting on this over and over and over again..

They need to fill air time..
Typical new reporting find a topic and pound the crap out of it :smash: till something else comes up..

 

[Tonyscoots84]

ok this will be my last post on this thread

1st off im not bashing i was just pissed about wat was said in the thread and as he simply stated afterwards "I am sorry but I just feel like there is too much attention being given to this. I also think we are wasting way too much money in trying to find these hikers. Money that could be used elsewhere where it could help more people..." <---that is messed up... i guess i see it as if god forbid that was me up there enjoying a sport i like to do or if someone from my family or the community here was lost up there, i would put any amount of money into it to rescue them.. i guess thats just me... they do need to fill air time and this is a pretty big deal... i see this thread as heartless, cold blooded,

now getting to the coal mines yes there are dangerous jobs that people understand they are taking the risk to work but when a freak accident does happen and need to be rescued any amount of money should go into it... they deserve all the help and money that is being used to help find them...

i no how to read what i wrote and 100% sure of what i said.. :thanks: phil...

 

[DevIouS]

ok this will be my last post on this thread

Yes. Thank you. You're making it "half minded"

1st off im not bashing

2nd off
yes, telling him that "we don't want to hear it" (speaking for everyone else) & "closing the half minded thread" is bashing.

i no how to read what i wrote and 100% sure of what i said.. :thanks: phil...

If you "no" how to read what you wrote...you would finally realize that the correct way of spelling "know" in that sentence...is K N O W
:thanks: Tony.


Now, I will close the thread since there couldn't be anything constructive to say.
What a shame.