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albano

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It's funny. On the most part its people that have never left this state for a good length of time- meaning years - say how bad Florida is. EVERY state has their downsides, some way more than others.

I've been to my fair share of states for months at a time and was in Texas for 3 1/2 years and when I got back in to town it felt nothing like it did when I left- not because I had changed but because the area did. More traffic, more headaches, higher costs and nothing more that you got for the higher costs that you got for less money and hassles back then. Those changes were all in 4 years not to mention the changes and price hikes in the 14 years since.

Remember when the midtown tunnel and the throgs neck and Whitestone were $2.50 to cross not $6.50? What about when the GWB was $6 not $12. I don't see any significant improvements to any of them to substantiate the costs. I don't see anything done to try to ease the trips. I still sit on the Cross Bronx for an hour and a half almost any time of the day to get to the George. Ive waited that long at 2am on a Sunday to cross that bridge. I've also seen the structures of those bridges and believe me they do the absolute minimum to keep those bridges standing. It's a lot of smoke and mirrors with the use of paint with SOME repairs.

I have friends that have been out of work for years and my one buddy just moved out- I let him stay with me for free until he got back on his feet after losing his job. It took him forever(a year and 8 months) to find new work and to save up enough to get back into an apartment of his own. Now if he had owned and not rented he would have been foreclosed on. So NY has all the same downfalls that people talk that Florida has except with higher costs. You can keep NY. I can't wait to relocate anywhere but here.(will be moving my mom to PA and taking are of her).

Most states have the same issues as Florida with the economy, housing markets(foreclosures) and the job markets. Only difference is that at least in Florida you can live on the beach and be separated from the hillbillies that live in land, here your stuck with the a-holes with no escape. Not to mention the wonderful NY attitudes. Gotta love it -fughettaboutit!!

Also anyone that defends NY to the hilt I guess likes to be ripped off, treated harshly by people working in establishments where they spend their money and deal with just absolute disregard for everything by people because in this state everyone is always right and will even after being proven by facts that they're wrong will still argue blindly grasping at straws to feel enough like they proved you wrong and them right and call the other person a moron- what other state has the cost of living we do here? MAYBE California, other than that- no where and we don't get nearly what we should for the taxes we pay and we can get the same stuff we get here for 1/3 the price anywhere else. I know it all goes together and balances out where the cost of living and pay you earn from state to state but if you have a pension on a NY rate which by the way you don't need to be 65 to have. I retired early but even if I retired normally with my job I could have retired anytime from the age of 44 on you can live happily without having to rely on the state at all. I can't say that for here. Everyone I know that retired normally still work because they have to to keep their life financially intact and to compensate for the increases of cost of living. My pension is kind of substantial for now- 5 years from now? Will be pretty damn good- 10 years from now? Will be good- 15 years from now? Will be moderate- 20 years from now? Ill be pinching pennies to survive and working somewhere that would hire a retired fireman that had t had any other training since the FD and has no schooling for a specilized skill other than fighting fires. In other words I'd be the one making you your plain bagel toasted with cream cheese in the mornings. In Florida or PA or many other states the house I'm going to buy will be paid off in 10-15 years and my pension will still support me easily going by the rate of cost hikes the states have experienced.

Also what other city has a mayor that has tried to outlaw sizes of the soft drinks your allowed to purchase at a restaurant? If someone's overweight(I fall into that category) you limiting me to what size Mountain Dew I can buy will do nothing to slim me down or to teach me good eating habits.

If you don't NEED to rely on the economy and job market AND don't mind relocating that far away there's very few states I'd 100% rather go to than Florida. Yes the heat is horrible in July and August but right now we'd all be wearing t shirts, not trying not to slip on ice and wearing heavy jackets. The thought of never owning a snow shovel or snow blower again is also a pretty nice one.

Sorry about the novel.

Just my .05

WOW...somebody's had too much Mountain Dew!!!!!
 
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I guess if you have it like that, then its not bad. Florida is not a.place.to go and make a living

I think it all depends on what your profession is. It's true that Florida does not have that much of variety in job types, especially jobs for passers by and not career related. But if the profession you are in is what the place needs, it's easy life. Rent is $850 for a house with 3 bed room 2 bath room. I know couple farmers who grow fruits and made 900(YES 900 not 9, not 90) thousand first year he started the farm. The second year, he made 1.5 mil. Of course, this is a rare case as he monopolizes a niche kind of fruit that Asian LOVE. There are couple aquaculture farms that got wiped out by the storms in 2008 and now grow even bigger and stronger. Night life is not bad there either, no cover, $10 all you can drink(wells) Show you pics later. Every Friday/Sat whole downtown is filled with locals. Of course, domestic tourists go Disney Downtown instead, not too fond of it because audience there are VERY RUDE, they push you all over in the dance floor. Higher education seems "so so" as I can see most universities targeted foreign students, not based on their merits, but on their wealth. I met quit a bit of those students. I even meet a student who has a body guard that dress like Men In Black while he is having a hair cut. LOL:lol_large
 
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E.intheC

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:lol2: Stop being all HR-like on MR :eek:

:lol2:

Regarding the "which state is better" discussion.. There's really not a right or wrong answer. Every state has its people who love it and people who hate it. Some folks are happy wherever they are, and some are miserable no matter what. Some like the heat.. The cold... City... Country.

As for me... I spent the first 25 years of my life in upstate NY. (Not Westchester County, but ACTUALLY upstate). :D ...Rochester, Syracuse (for college), and Albany for a few years after. My family is up there still. The weather is colder, but you can ski, get outside, and it's plenty hot in the summer. It's also much cheaper. People in general are more friendly, and (at least in my circles), money wasn't important. I have no idea which one of my friend's families were wealthy, poor, middle class, etc.. We didn't care.

That said... to me, Long Island is great. We have NYC, the Ocean, and beautiful rural areas out east. The weather isn't perfect, but it beats the 120+ inches of snow per year I'm used to. Yes, it's expensive, there's lots of traffic, and people can be stuck up and difficult. But there are tons of awesome people on the island as well. We have some of the best hospitals in the nation, and several Long Island high schools are ranked very high as well.

You have to ask yourself why you're moving?
 

CoralMeister

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It's funny. On the most part its people that have never left this state for a good length of time- meaning years - say how bad Florida is. EVERY state has their downsides, some way more than others.

I've been to my fair share of states for months at a time and was in Texas for 3 1/2 years and when I got back in to town it felt nothing like it did when I left- not because I had changed but because the area did. More traffic, more headaches, higher costs and nothing more that you got for the higher costs that you got for less money and hassles back then. Those changes were all in 4 years not to mention the changes and price hikes in the 14 years since.

Remember when the midtown tunnel and the throgs neck and Whitestone were $2.50 to cross not $6.50? What about when the GWB was $6 not $12. I don't see any significant improvements to any of them to substantiate the costs. I don't see anything done to try to ease the trips. I still sit on the Cross Bronx for an hour and a half almost any time of the day to get to the George. Ive waited that long at 2am on a Sunday to cross that bridge. I've also seen the structures of those bridges and believe me they do the absolute minimum to keep those bridges standing. It's a lot of smoke and mirrors with the use of paint with SOME repairs.

I have friends that have been out of work for years and my one buddy just moved out- I let him stay with me for free until he got back on his feet after losing his job. It took him forever(a year and 8 months) to find new work and to save up enough to get back into an apartment of his own. Now if he had owned and not rented he would have been foreclosed on. So NY has all the same downfalls that people talk that Florida has except with higher costs. You can keep NY. I can't wait to relocate anywhere but here.(will be moving my mom to PA and taking are of her).

Most states have the same issues as Florida with the economy, housing markets(foreclosures) and the job markets. Only difference is that at least in Florida you can live on the beach and be separated from the hillbillies that live in land, here your stuck with the a-holes with no escape. Not to mention the wonderful NY attitudes. Gotta love it -fughettaboutit!!

Also anyone that defends NY to the hilt I guess likes to be ripped off, treated harshly by people working in establishments where they spend their money and deal with just absolute disregard for everything by people because in this state everyone is always right and will even after being proven by facts that they're wrong will still argue blindly grasping at straws to feel enough like they proved you wrong and them right and call the other person a moron- what other state has the cost of living we do here? MAYBE California, other than that- no where and we don't get nearly what we should for the taxes we pay and we can get the same stuff we get here for 1/3 the price anywhere else. I know it all goes together and balances out where the cost of living and pay you earn from state to state but if you have a pension on a NY rate which by the way you don't need to be 65 to have. I retired early but even if I retired normally with my job I could have retired anytime from the age of 44 on you can live happily without having to rely on the state at all. I can't say that for here. Everyone I know that retired normally still work because they have to to keep their life financially intact and to compensate for the increases of cost of living. My pension is kind of substantial for now- 5 years from now? Will be pretty damn good- 10 years from now? Will be good- 15 years from now? Will be moderate- 20 years from now? Ill be pinching pennies to survive and working somewhere that would hire a retired fireman that had t had any other training since the FD and has no schooling for a specilized skill other than fighting fires. In other words I'd be the one making you your plain bagel toasted with cream cheese in the mornings. In Florida or PA or many other states the house I'm going to buy will be paid off in 10-15 years and my pension will still support me easily going by the rate of cost hikes the states have experienced.

Also what other city has a mayor that has tried to outlaw sizes of the soft drinks your allowed to purchase at a restaurant? If someone's overweight(I fall into that category) you limiting me to what size Mountain Dew I can buy will do nothing to slim me down or to teach me good eating habits.

If you don't NEED to rely on the economy and job market AND don't mind relocating that far away there's very few states I'd 100% rather go to than Florida. Yes the heat is horrible in July and August but right now we'd all be wearing t shirts, not trying not to slip on ice and wearing heavy jackets. The thought of never owning a snow shovel or snow blower again is also a pretty nice one.

Sorry about the novel.

Just my .05




LOL you definitely see the difference of people's attitudes in other states. Growing up in NY, I was used to all that but when I went to Georgia, Florida, California, among few others, I was just in shock by how nice the people were like I was thinking to myself wtf does it really get better than this??
 

jaa1456

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People go to Florida to die, I do like South Beach though. I don't miss living in Ohio or Georgia the amount of jobs are scarce and the pay as well. New Jersey isn't that great either but still far enough from the city so I can stretch my legs
 

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