Recent content by saltyzoo

never mind. took me too long to post this. ;)

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What was the total amount given to Matt at Inland for the test? I don't recall seeing a grand total of what was collected.

I agree that nets are damaging. I don't even own a net. Plastic containers work as excellent substitutes for nets and hands. It is best for the health of the fish and the handler not to directly handle the fish.

You win. I give up. I really just haven't the foggiest idea how to argue with this logic. Actually, I do know how to argue with this logic. I've been doing so most of the thread. The truth is I don't know how to convince you that your thinking is fallacious. I've tried a dozen different ways...

Absolutely necessary is a subjective term. I leave it to you to define for yourselves. For me personally, making a puffer puff is about as far away from "absolutely necessary" as it gets.

Len, The point that I was trying to make is that the fact that it was said that I "...have severely underestimated the intellectual capacity of members of this particular bulletin board." is nothing more than another attempt to distract from the evidence that is on the table. It does not show...

I respectfully ask how: helps anyone understand each other better?

Righty, it really matters not. People have decided who is credible without actually finding out who is who and what is what. I could throw out 3 PhD's and 20 years experience in the field (which I don't have, just for the record. Don't want anybody accusing me of misleading them) and you still...

It's not the number that is at issue. Pinching 20 puffers and seeing if they live is not going to prove anything and is hardly scientific. If I pinched 20 puffers and they all died would you be willing to accept that it was due to the pinching? I hope not. There is not enough evidence there to...

LOL I think that's a great idea. Wait a minute I know someone that has such experience. Maybe you ought to find out the experience of the person you are arguing with before discounting what they say.... The irony is killing me. Oh, and I'm not ignoring you. I responded to your "they like it"...

I've seen thousands of fish go through the horrible process of transfer that was discussed earlier and live to tell the tale. Does this mean that the collection and shipping process is not stressful? What's that word? Preposterous? That's not very good science IMO. It simply proves that 20 or...

Do these experts work with the same thousands of fish day after day or are they shipping them out to who knows what fate? Keeping a fish alive for a week is pretty easy. Is there long term documentation involved that hasn't been shared? Has there been a controlled study of fish being regularly...

That's quite a statement considering you haven't the foggiest idea what my experience is. I don't know about you personally, and I don't know your "experts" from adam, but every expert that I've discussed this with has been as shocked as I am. If you read the only documentation that has been...

Just for the record some would say I fit in most if not all of those categories myself. I guess it's a matter of credibility. I think I'll take the word of everyone I've ever worked with in the field. Literally EVERYONE I've ever worked with accepts that handling is stressful and should be...