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I met him tonight...he was in the shop pimping his product. Is it all for real, or what?

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Chip
 

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Have you been under a rock?

Leng Sy has been around forever. His company is EcoSystem Aquarium and his mud based system does work. Is it necessary? Dunno, it's just another option. However, I believe he's now branching out into manufacturing some pretty nice filter systems that include a protein skimmer. I saw a prototype a few months back.

Leng's a great guy and very knowledgeable, definitely not a crook. He's good friends with Mike Paletta as well. Both are very respected in the industry.

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You should look up the thread where inland reef had the mud tested (as well as someone in germany who also had it tested and came up with similar results).

The magazine is nice.. you should sell that in your shop for sure.
 
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JT":1smzktfe said:
Have you been under a rock?

You, of all people, should know that I live under a rock.

JT":1smzktfe said:
Leng Sy has been around forever. His company is EcoSystem Aquarium and his mud based system does work. Is it necessary? Dunno, it's just another option. However, I believe he's now branching out into manufacturing some pretty nice filter systems that include a protein skimmer. I saw a prototype a few months back.

Yes, he had pics of those. Nice-looking unit.

JT":1smzktfe said:
Leng's a great guy and very knowledgeable, definitely not a crook. He's good friends with Mike Paletta as well. Both are very respected in the industry.

He was a great person to talk to...I spoke with him for an hour or so. Very nice, and of course the video of his own tanks was very impressive.

Thanks for the info.

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Chip
 
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JeremyR":726mzpqr said:
You should look up the thread where inland reef had the mud tested (as well as someone in germany who also had it tested and came up with similar results).

The magazine is nice.. you should sell that in your shop for sure.

Oh yes, now that Mark is sane again and Mike is non-belligerent we'll be ramping up the saltwater dry goods. ;) The mag is a must-have, as I told them when I received issue #1. They just weren't in the frame of mind to listen back then...

I read those threads...lots of good info. We'll be carrying the product without letting new reefers know it's backyard dirt. ;) The system itself seems to work, so that's what's important.

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Chip
 

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That's the kind of snake oil salesman logic that makes me ill in this industry. It works because it's a refugium on a main tank with live rock which has nothing to do with the mud, magic or otherwise and I feel that it's wrong to charge someone 10 bux a pound for terrestrial dirt that you call "magic". That's me tho.
 
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JeremyR":1y64yge1 said:
That's the kind of snake oil salesman logic that makes me ill in this industry. It works because it's a refugium on a main tank with live rock which has nothing to do with the mud, magic or otherwise and I feel that it's wrong to charge someone 10 bux a pound for terrestrial dirt that you call "magic". That's me tho.

It's not my store. I would think that if you knew me, you'd think I wouldn't do that if I controlled the purse-strings.

However, they see $$$, and that's how I have to think.

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Chip
 

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I wasn't impressed with the "mud" but the refugium system was ahead of its time. We still put a skimmer on it though.

I found the "mud" tinted the water yellow... so we still ran carbon too.

This was when I worked for someone else.

I don't carry the other Ecosystem products but I carry the magazine. I like the refugium ... I think that was a great innovation and although overpriced, IMO a nice product. Like I said I don't carry Leng's stuff, but I liked the concept, although the price for the "mud" which has to be replaced every few years, could be replicated at a fraction of the cost.

More power to him if he can sell the stuff - it does no harm.. just not my cup of tea.

I first heard of that stuff about 5 years ago, so yes, Chip, you've been under a rock or on another planet... but that's OK, we love you anyway :)

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Could you please let me know what magazine is that? I would like to have too. How to get?
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JennM":1w23e0py said:
I wasn't impressed with the "mud" but the refugium system was ahead of its time.
If you mean the efficient marketing, Jenn, then yes.
'fuges have been recognized and used for the extra biofiltration and particle settling they offer, since before Walt Adey even wrote about them as a biodiversity-promotion and settling tool in Dynamic Aquaria.

More power to him if he can sell the stuff - it does no harm.. just not my cup of tea.
Absolutely.
He seems like a stand up guy.



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JeremyR":vazconkq said:
You should look up the thread where inland reef had the mud tested (as well as someone in germany who also had it tested and came up with similar results).

The magazine is nice.. you should sell that in your shop for sure.

do you have that link handy?

btw have run an eco system for years and they work great. every few months we have a little ceremony, huck some chicken bones at the sump and it's all good for a while longer. later i sneak back and throw a huge back of carbon in there because im not down with yellow water either.

oh and the magazine kicks ass.
 

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