Help Quarantine my fish NOW! Please...

[cthoughts1]

Duke82, if you knew everything you'd know that I was told the fish I ordered was 2-3 inches big and healthy and already quarantined. When I got it in the mail it was 3-4 inches with ich. I'm not happy about that but I'm still trying to do what I can for the fish. I didn't want to turn this into a how big is your tang/tank thread. I do my research before I buy anything I keep in my tank and ask my questions before I buy not after. Quite frankly I wasn't looking for your advice and I didn't request it. If you feel you have to place your unsolicited advice even after you're told it's not wanted then you may have some unresolved issues in your childhood you may want to look into.

 

[duke62]

oh and chief was asking about the container because the holes in the container might have let some ick into the main tank and you may have more problems then the 1 fish having ick

 

[JARRETT SHARK]

this thread is sad and funny, good luck because ich sucks!!!!!!!

 

[JimmyR1rider]

If anyone ever wonders why and how psychologists stay in business refer them to this thread. 3 words- zoloft, zannex and therapy.

 

[Wes]

If you did your research on this fish like you said that means you chose to ignore the tank size requirement for this extremely delicate fish.

On top of that you were not prepared to treat this for what is pretty much a guranteed ich outbreak.

I hope for the fish's sake you find someone who can properly treat and care for this fish. I also hope for the fish's sake that person does not give the fish back.

Unfortunately I forsee a sad ending for this fish...


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[Breakin Newz]

Sorry, but I seen a fully grown achillas in a local 75g tank doing VERY well.... 48" inch long tanks are usually enough for 1 species of a tang IMO...

 

[aznt1217]

Yo bro I wish i saw this earlier. I have the equipment to house the fish. 48 inch long tank and i think i can setup water for it. Give me a call if you want to try. Honestly if its eating just Leave him in there. I feel like the worst thing you can do is freak out about ich.

How does it looks right now?

Also with the whole fish and gallonage requirement, I think the tang will do fine as long as water movement is high and there is at least 48 inches of swim space.

 

[INNEED]

love this thread

 

[cthoughts1]

I hope for the fish's sake you find someone who can properly treat and care for this fish. I also hope for the fish's sake that person does not give the fish back.

Unfortunately I forsee a sad ending for this fish...


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Hey Wes, that's just an ignorant comment. I'm sad to see you're jumping on the fool band wagon here. It just amazes me how people assume sh*t and are quick to talk on here. Reminds me of an old saying: "Those who know everything, know nothing.."

I understand that as tangs grow they need bigger tanks (which is evident by my selling my 4-5" hippo tang because it outgrew my tank, as Duke pointed out). I, however, see no reason why a 2-3" Achilles tang (which is what I expected to receive) would not thrive and prosper in a 75 gallon tank for a good while. And yes I chose to disregard the bigger tank requirement because I expected a 2-3" fish, it kind of makes sense if you do the math: Small fish + 75 Gallon tank = healthy fish.

Problem here was that I recieved a tang that was 1-2"s bigger than what I was told it was and it came with ick, when I was told it had been quarantined and fully healthy, which again is the reason I had no QT set up. Even so, a 3-4 inch achilles will do fine in a 75 gallon tank for a little while. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out.


Breakin Newz - Maybe not a full grown Achilles, lol, but yeah an achilles probably up to 5"s will do more than fine in a 75 gallon tank.

Hey Aznt - thanks for offering man, much appreciated. I pulled out an old 20 gallon and set up the QT.

 

[Breakin Newz]

Hey Wes, that's just an ignorant comment. I'm sad to see you're jumping on the fool band wagon here. It just amazes me how people assume sh*t and are quick to talk on here. Reminds me of an old saying: "Those who know everything, know nothing.."

I understand that as tangs grow they need bigger tanks (which is evident by my selling my 4-5" hippo tang because it outgrew my tank, as Duke pointed out). I, however, see no reason why a 2-3" Achilles tang (which is what I expected to receive) would not thrive and prosper in a 75 gallon tank for a good while. And yes I chose to disregard the bigger tank requirement because I expected a 2-3" fish, it kind of makes sense if you do the math: Small fish + 75 Gallon tank = healthy fish.

Problem here was that I recieved a tang that was 1-2"s bigger than what I was told it was and it came with ick, when I was told it had been quarantined and fully healthy, which again is the reason I had no QT set up. Even so, a 3-4 inch achilles will do fine in a 75 gallon tank for a little while. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out.


Breakin Newz - Maybe not a full grown Achilles, lol, but yeah an achilles probably up to 5"s will do more than fine in a 75 gallon tank.

Hey Aznt - thanks for offering man, much appreciated. I pulled out an old 20 gallon and set up the QT.

Fully grown yes, not wild fully grown which from what I seen are much bigger then any captive I CAME across!

I did see 1 larger then usual in a 200g frag tank, and that did not actually live long...

 

[cthoughts1]

Gotcha Breakin Newz. It really all depends on the tank, tank mates, nutrition and care. These people with their "tank requirements" kill me.. lol.. They have no common sense aside from what they read.

 

[pecan2phat]

cthoughts,
Copper treat him for at least 14 days. I lean towards SeaChem Cuprimine. Adjust dosage for water changes since your QT has no bacteria bed.

 

[cthoughts1]

pecan2phat, thank you very much for the advice. Will do.

 

[JimmyR1rider]

C---I have no opinion either way but really is no need to get all ticked off. People go by what they read due to what they read USUALLY being written by experts. I guess in some eyes(mainly yours) thats a bad place to base their decisions on. In my profession the books we learn our trade through were written due to someone dying and us learning through others mistakes so hopefully we may live through the same circumstances later on, as well as aquarium books are so people learn from past reefers hard knock experience and not make the same floundering mistakes that others have made therefore killing fish in the end that should have survived given the right conditions---tank size and what not--- . Were all grown adults and with most things people will ask those same certain questions because they usually apply. Good luck with everything....Jimmy

 

[duke62]

dude whats with all the name calling.is this first grade.how do people on here let alone your life take you seriously.you want to point out some facts dude.an achilles tang should be CAREFULLY inspected before purchasing.if you did some research you could have saved yourself a awful headache.secondly if u noticed ick on the tang why in heavens name would you put it in your display with a opened hole container.third your starting arguments with people who are just trying to help and your ranting and raving like a third grader.seriously i know your stressed and worried now i would be to but come on man grow up.expierenced reefers i believe will be with me on this you dont put a achilles tang in a 75 and watch it for 6 months and get rid of it.sorry seriously if anything i said offended you it really shouldnt have.everyone makes mistakes.i put 2 yellow tangs in a 55 just to see 1 kill the other.

 

[duke62]

oh click on the achilles word in blue..did you look at that in your "research"

 

[cthoughts1]

Jimmy, in my profession we rely on precedents while at the same time conserving our individual ability to think outside of the box and thus often challenging precedents because each circumstance is not a replica of the last. Experiences vary vastly depending on individual circumstances.

For example saying a fish requires 150 gallon tank is fine, but what people fail to realize is that the 150 gallon tank requirement is for a fully grown species, not for a smaller version of said species. The reality is if you put a 1 inch fish of that particular species in a 150 gallon tank with tank mates that are very competitive for food it’s survival rate is much less than if you put that same 1 inch fish in a smaller tank where it’s tank mates are less aggressive and where it can properly compete for food.

That being said this was a thread I started to see if anyone had a quarantine tank set up and running which would help me get this fish into a safer environment a little quicker. I never solicited advice about tank size or conditions for a specific fish, and when it was offered I quickly pointed that out and here we are. I have enough experience and confidence in what I’m doing in this hobby to ask if I don’t know something, and I wasn’t asking here.

Anyhow, thank you for your well wishes.


Hey Duke, you go to your psychologist to resolve your deep seeded insecurities that prompt you to offer unsolicited advice even after you’re told it’s not needed yet?

If you must know, the tang was placed in my tank with the lights off, it wasn’t until I turned the lights on that I noticed the spots then it was removed. I misplaced my trust in a "trusted seller".

And about you trying to “help me”, seems like you still don’t get it man. I’m not asking for your help about tank size and tang size or whatever nonsense you claim to be helping with. If you really wanted to help you would have offered the 20 gallon tank you claimed to have, kind of like how kugenx did in his post.

In terms of “experienced reefers” agreeing not to put the tang in for 6 months.. lol. Man you seem to have A.D.D. or something. I’ll spell it out for you: The tang was supposed to come in at 2-3 inches, which would mean I’d watch it grow for about a year before rehoming it. I’m sure your “experienced reefers” understand that aspect of the hobby, which is why they all buy “frags”.

Duke, I’m not offended, I just don’t tolerate condescending comments from people who think they have all the answers. The reality is that this hobby isn’t a science, so pretending to know everything with out first asking isn’t a good look for you.

 

[duke62]

ok you wont listen to my advise or anyone elses advise cause it doesnt coinside with your train of though ohhh wait wait a minute but you dont even listen to your own advise and i quote in a previous thread you wrote...i really dont want to get the fish shipped because of the extra stress put on the fish due to shipping..not your exact words but pretty damn close.if you wont listen to yourself why listen to anyone else.i guess buying a sick fish for 89 dollars is worth it then spending 189 on a healthy fish.and still with the slanderous words.i am laughing so hard now because i know it just bothers you how nright i am.just because you aqre acting like such a gentleman i got 4 words for u.IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG..i wont bother u no more .next time you want to waste 89 dollars send it my way i will sell ya the top of the chrysler building HAHAHA

 

[cthoughts1]

Ok Dukie, we'll make a new rule for you tonight. "No one shall place a 3 inch tang in a 75 gallon tank from now on." We'll ask the Mods to post a sticky, just for you ok? Make you feel special yet? Come on, you know you're blushing in your girlie little way with all the attention you're getting tonight. >pinches dukie's little cheeks<

Dukie, money isn't an issue on my end, I'm not counting my pennies and looking for deals when it comes to a healthy fish. I'll pay a fair and reasonable price. If you had your facts straight (or if your A.D.D. didn't mislead your little brain) you would remember my earlier post where I said it was a "trusted seller." It's actually right above your last post so no need to go hunting for it. Seems like you've been spending quite some time doing that tonight.. LMAO.

 

[duke62]

Im right your wrong