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mathman7728

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hi,

getting back in after 10yrs off.

the lfs has a 210gal glass tank for sale for what seems to be a great deal, but i worry about the glass leaking? isnt acrylic better from a leak prevention standpoint?
 
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Honestly... it could go either way. Glass can and will fail eventually, acrylic can and will fail eventually.

Quality is quality regardless of if it's acrylic or glass.
 

mathman7728

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acrylic fails? i've never heard of that before...i just assumed that becuase of the chemical bonding at the joints that as long as the joints were sealed properaly then no worries. glass always struck me as it would fail given that joints are seal with simple selicon.
 
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After having a glass tank fail, I bought an acrylic tank 6 years ago and couldn't be happier. I was also told that the acrylic bonds were highly unlikely to leak.

A leaky glass reef tank was a huge PITA!!
 
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Glass. Sooooo much easier to clean and sooooo much harder to scratch.
 
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Yes acrylic can fail. While yeah the whole bonding process with acrylic is often stronger than with glass (solvent welding vs adhesion) that join is a weak point in the tank, and it very well can fail. Look at an old acrylic tank you might see a ton of bubbling inside the joint, that's from stress over time.

However like I said, quality is quality you can get crappy quality acrylic that won't last for squat, you can get crappy quality glasswork that won't last either... or they could last 10-20 years.
 
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Thales":1wdjnoly said:
Glass. Sooooo much easier to clean and sooooo much harder to scratch.
And sooo much easier to repair if needed. Siliconing a tank is easy-peasy. I've repaired hundreds of 'em!
 
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seamaiden":ts2mq1yh said:
Thales":ts2mq1yh said:
Glass. Sooooo much easier to clean and sooooo much harder to scratch.
And sooo much easier to repair if needed. Siliconing a tank is easy-peasy. I've repaired hundreds of 'em!

Ummm really? Maybe a seam but not for much else. Acrylic glue dries umpteen times faster. Acrylic is MUCH faster to drill as well :)
 

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again, many thanks for all the info.

assuming quality counts, who makes a top-notch acrylic tank? i dont need custom size (want a 120gal) but want one or two overflows
 

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Thales":3vwyxykg said:
Glass. Sooooo much easier to clean and sooooo much harder to scratch.
Yeah, but get a few grains of sand
under your magnetic scraper and watch the fun begin.
But like Gresham said, I would not drill a glass tank, but I would have no qualms about firing
up the drill for an acrylic. We don need no stinkin drill press!
 
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mathman7728":217r4e0w said:
again, many thanks for all the info.

assuming quality counts, who makes a top-notch acrylic tank? i dont need custom size (want a 120gal) but want one or two overflows

Where are you located?
 
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GreshamH":20t6zt8y said:
seamaiden":20t6zt8y said:
Thales":20t6zt8y said:
Glass. Sooooo much easier to clean and sooooo much harder to scratch.
And sooo much easier to repair if needed. Siliconing a tank is easy-peasy. I've repaired hundreds of 'em!

Ummm really? Maybe a seam but not for much else. Acrylic glue dries umpteen times faster. Acrylic is MUCH faster to drill as well :)
You have no idea the creative solutions I've come up with, Gresham. :lol: But, you'd be AMAZED what you can do if you're willing to sacrifice a little Beauty in the Righteous Name of Utility. :D Oh, and glass + silicone sammiches.

Saltlick":20t6zt8y said:
Thales":20t6zt8y said:
Glass. Sooooo much easier to clean and sooooo much harder to scratch.
Yeah, but get a few grains of sand
under your magnetic scraper and watch the fun begin.
But like Gresham said, I would not drill a glass tank, but I would have no qualms about firing
up the drill for an acrylic. We don need no stinkin drill press!
I've cleaned a lot of tanks and have never had a grain of sand do what a razor blade can do.
D'oh! No, seriously, it's true. :|
 
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seamaiden":3vz8mubw said:
I've cleaned a lot of tanks and have never had a grain of sand do what a razor blade can do.
D'oh! No, seriously, it's true. :|
I've never seen a grain of sand on a glass tank do what getting to closer to my acrylic tank with my sweater unzipped so when I moved the teeth lightly scraped along the surface could do!!
 
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Oh man could we talk, it's the same thing with motorcycle gas tanks. :oops:

First time I had to do a glass sandwich I'd put a tall hex on a flexible tv stand and filled it, in the house, and dropped in feeder gups. It lasted all night long, and then that morning, shortly after I awoke, I hear a POP! POP POP! Then WHOOOSSSSHHHHH!!!!! and I see the guppy level drop dramatically. :lol: Oh God did I get my butt chewed for that one.

Anyway, I figured out how to make a new bottom without taking the bottom out and made a sammich. Lasted for years after that, til I ended up selling it.
 
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The Escaped Ape":3es1hso4 said:
Envision and My Reef Creations are highly regarded.

http://www.envisionacrylics.com/

http://www.myreefcreations.com/

BTW, I started a similar thread a while back. Here it is for info.

http://www.reefs.org/forums/post1625700.html?hilit=acrylic#p1625700

Might wanna wait till he says where he's located. been down this road far too often to start posting places with out knowing that :)

James @ Envision is top nothc, but you'll pay top notch. You want perfection, he is THE MAN! He's on the West Coast of the US though.
 
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You're right, but I figured he was more likely to be in the US than not. Maybe not, but fwiw.
 
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James is the man, but is it really worth the added cost to get a fairly stock tank size that isn't custom?
 

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