Kole Tang and the gang

[fishaddict]

I beleive my kole tang stressed my yellow tang to death. They where both small 3"-5" and in a 56 gal tank.

I wanna move the rest of the fish into the larger tank. Do you think he'll go after them as well?

6ln wrasse
royal gramma
flame angel

 

[Mike612]

Well the Kole Tang probably did harass the Yellow Tang to death because that a 56 gallon is too small to support two tangs. You need over 100 gallons to support two. How big is this other tank you want to move him into?

 

[Anonymous]

Well the Kole Tang probably did harass the Yellow Tang to death because that a 56 gallon is too small to support one tangs. You need over 100 gallons to support one. How big is this other tank you want to move him into?

Edited for accuracy

I wish people would start to recognize fish behavor, in the same way you wouldn't put a lion fish in with smaller fish like damsels, a parrot fish in with corals, and you shouldn't large swimming fish (tangs, large angels) in a tank that's too small. Hell even LiveAquaria's numbers are higher than that 56 gallon

anyways not meaning to be the tang police here but... yeah it needed to be done

 

[melas]

Well the Kole Tang probably did harass the Yellow Tang to death because that a 56 gallon is too small to support one tangs. You need over 100 gallons to support one. How big is this other tank you want to move him into?

Edited for accuracy

I wish people would start to recognize fish behavor, in the same way you wouldn't put a lion fish in with smaller fish like damsels, a parrot fish in with corals, and you shouldn't large swimming fish (tangs, large angels) in a tank that's too small. Hell even LiveAquaria's numbers are higher than that 56 gallon

anyways not meaning to be the tang police here but... yeah it needed to be done

hey we all have to learn some how . . . surely you've made mistakes along the way . . . what's unacceptable is your inconsiderate remarks to an individual who is probably new to the hobby . . . don't tear down . . . build up!

 

[fishaddict]

1st I'm not a marine biologist

2nd you get slapped for not reading. I said they're both SMALL. 2 full grown tangs won't handle a 56gal. They're (were) both about 3-4"

3rd the fish hobby invented things called nets to remove fish , maybe just maybe I was gonna upgrade later or give him to a bigger home

4th you don't post if you don't have anything nice to say

5th its a pygmy flame angel not an angelfish

6th if sfsuphysics is rude enough to reply I will give you a serious thrashing on any of your future posts I find for incorrect info or errors.

I didnt post to get some rude j**kass to reply to my thread.

 

[Anonymous]

ok, my original post wasn't so much a direct attack at the original poster, but now I'm ticked off at this rude posting as a reply the "Oh I don't know any better" response.

My post was supposed to be informative, no where do I openly attack you, I was simply stating I wish people would get a little more information about the fish they buy before they buy them. Since it's painfully obvious people still do the exact same thing (tangs in a small tank) I think it's not uncalled for to occasionally make posts reminding of this delema.

And to the "fishaddict"

1: Never said you were, but do you just buy any fish and throw them in because they look cool or you want them? Tangs needing a big tank isn't exactly confidential information, requiring a degree in Marine Biology

2: I did read your post, feel free to slap me again if it makes you feel better though, small tangs or large tangs they don't belong in a small tank except maybe in a LFS because they're only there in the short term to be resold. They're long range swimmers, regardless of their size, it wasn't a statement on being "cramped" so much as being in an improper setting.

3: Yeah, maybe you were going to remove the fish for a bigger upgrade later, but you want to know the cold hard truth? That statement is used more than "I do not recall" in congressional hearings. Many people make plans of upgrading, getting larger, whatever, facts are that most do not even if they plan on doing it.

4: I'm really sorry that you felt that I said something "unnice" directly to you. Problem is this forum isn't about always having a nice demeanor towards everything, occasionally someone does "boner" moves and get told what they did wrong, and a wish people would stop doing that. Now if you see that as a direct attack at you then I'm sorry, I really am, but it's not a direct attack simply a statement of desire, in the same way if someone bought fish/corals/inverts that have a very little chance for survival (example flame scallop) people tend to tell them they did something "stupid" or whatever, no need to get your panties in a twist because it was told to you then

5: A pygmy flame angel is an angelfish, it belongs to the dwarf angelfish family. My comments were not about your particular angelfish though, I was making a blanket statement, if someone put an Imperator Angel into that tank when they got a 2-3" juvenile, then guess what, I'd say the same thing to them about wishing people would stop doing that.

6: So now just me replying becomes "rude". The really is no reason for you to get terribly defense because someone (me) flat out told you that you should not have done that. I can't undo what you did, perhaps though it'll prevent you from doing it again should one of the fish die (ie stop you from buying a replacement fish), and if this "rude" behavor of mine manages to prevent that then I'll continue to be "rude". But if you want to follow around every single post that I make looking for the smallest of inaccuracies then by all means do it, if it makes your day, helps you feel better about yourself knock yourself out kiddo, just note you will start to look quite hypocritical about chastising someone for giving you some info, then go on a trolling rampage on any post I happen to make. But again knock yourself out if it helps you get by.

No, you did not post to get a jack*** response, you posted because you did something you shouldn't have done (at this point you didn't know this) you suspected one fish harrassed another, the poster before mine pointed out you put fish in a tank that was way to small for the two fish in question. I followed up with a desire that people would stop doing that (translation: get a little more infomation before buying animals because they're somehow more "disposable" than a puppy or a kitten)

 

[fyrefysh]

sfsuphysics, please simmer down. We all know that there are always hard lessons learned and not everyone aways gets the correct information about a fish/coral/etc first hand. Boy, I think that if I were treated like fishaddict when I first started posting, I wouldn't be posting. I think that this forum is here as a way to gain knowlege about this hobby on a friendly level. If such posts make you angry, then just don't reply.

 

[Anonymous]

yeah, I wouldn't have been angry ordinarily, unfortunately my internet connection was down and I was forced to steal my neighbors wi-fi on my laptop (I hate that thing). So I apologize if I came off as a prick, I wasn't meaning to, but in the same way fishaddict got overly defensive about my post I think I did the same about his/hers.

Anyways, no harm no foul.

 

[melas]

hey we're all bioethical sinners . . .anyone who has ever purchased a wild caught creature, whether a fish, coral, hermit crab, snail, or monkey for domestic, non-breeding purposes has put their own selfish desires before the health and well-being of that creature. some of us try to justify it by providing the best environment possible but even that is exceptionally arrogant. how can our measly 100, 200, or even 1000 gallon aquariums possibly compare to the trillions of gallons that the world's oceans/seas afford? really the tang police should be prohibitionists since there really are virtually no tang breeding programs. . . we're all just killing the wild tang population off for our own enjoyment. . . [goes and looks at beautiful sailfin tang in personal aquarium]

 

[Unarce]

We could let bygones be bygones and simply help correct fishaddicts mistake

I'm guessing the yellow tang was added after the kole tang was established. Kole tangs are considered one of the most docile surgeons, but can still give an @$$ kicking. This probably might not have happened in a larger tank.

If you do decide you want to have more than one tank in the future, add them at the same time, in a larger tank of course :wink:

 

[gregx]

I love reading a good ***** session on this forum. Its a good thing no one knows where the other lives or there could be alot of drownings reported . P.S. The tangs do need a very large tank to live out their little lives happily.

 

[Len]

2 small tangs in a 56 gallon is still too many tangs. I probably would argue that 1 smal tang in a 56 gallon is stretching it. This is just my opinion and experience.

Your other fish will be fine in the 56 gallon.

 

[WRASSER]

I dont think it was the kole tang, maybe stress from being in the tank, water conditions or some kind of combo. IME i have a kole tang and a yellow tang in my 55 gal. tank and from what i see the kole tang is a lot less aggressive than the zebrasoma family.