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Joew

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heh....i knew ol'beaslbob would show up sooner or later. My opinion is better maintnance. I just went BB, but i know my issue with cyano/har was all mantnance + skimmer pump going critical this past bout. I just call it what it is, re-curing.

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Agreed Joe.

Proper maintenance would prevent any nusiance algae from forming. Export is the key. Skimming does a fine job of exporting as well as water changes.

Some macros will HELP do this as well and when they do they grow and need to be trimmed back from taking over the tank AKA export.

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Teddy":r8favuab said:
Why are you guys so against what I am doing?

What you're doing will work fine. Lots of people have scrubbed their rock clean or recurred it in the dark to start fresh after having serious algae problems. I agree that better husbandry will be required to avoid a repeat of history, but it sounds like you already know that. I'm sure it will work out fine for you - good luck.
 
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leftovers":22uyuzng said:
OK just to clarify a few things:

1. You aren't cooking the rock

2. This is nothing more than denying your rock the light the feeds the algae both benign and nuisance

3. This is nothing more than the old method that was used for some 15-20 years to cure rock. The old toss in large garbage pail for 6-8 weeks then shake vigorously and then add to tank method.

4. This does not do much of anything other than kill off all light requiring animals.

5. If you don't cure the cause killing the symptoms won't do much good.

This process does cure the cause. Denying the algae light to grow will allow bacteria to process and shed the detritus in the rock that would otherwise be used by the algae.
 
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I don't get it. How exactly does the bacteria "shed" the detritus? What prevents the detritus from just getting stuck deep inside the rock where it was to begin with? How is this any different from basting your rocks frequently and letting your skimmer remove it?
 
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Mayy - I believe that blasting the LR frequeently is key. When the LR is loaded up from not blasting the LR retains all that detritus and it becomes fuel for the algae when it breaks down. I have hair algae and I have been blasting my LR with a power head every other day and what a mess on the bottom of the tank. No plants are going to remove that unless they are a super breed that moves and vacuum the bare bottom. My method make take a little longer to rid the "Current" algae but "re-curing is killign the algae my remove the light source.
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Personally I think "CURING" is before ever going in the tank. Getting rid of all the die off from transporting the rock. Letting it "cure."
"COOKING" is removing "CURED" rock and depriving it of light and using extremely heavy filtering/skimming to remove all traces of detritus from all the pores, cells and holes in the rock.

And I don't see the why you guys made such a big deal out of what to call it.
 
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Matt_Wandell":2jvoytzi said:
I don't get it. How exactly does the acteria "shed" the detritus?

Turgor

What prevents the detritus from just getting stuck deep inside the rock where it was to begin with?

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Well...it CAN be but it isn't always the case.
You can't cure cured rock right?
But you CAN cook cured rock.

Cooking has nothing to do with the ammonia cycle.
It has to do with changing the conditions the rocks are in from an algal dominated (lit) to a bacteria dominated (dark) system.

Enabling the bacteria to get the upperhand and 'bore' into the rock and consume all the organics (Phosphorous), thus eliminating the algae's food source, thus killing the algaes off.

From the thread I posted...

I like catch phrases but maybe thats just me as it seems you have comvinced Teddy, noticing the change in topic title.
 
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Teddy

After all of the back and forth. What ever you want to call it, curing or cooking. It should give you a good restart and a hand up on the algae. Keep up with the upkeep this time and you will never have to do it again.
 

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