I bought a young pair of tank raised false perculas 1 week ago they are doing fine. 2days ago I bought a long tentacle anemone.My question is will they take to the host :?: It is a pacifica anemone but the false perculas have never been exposed to any anemone :?: The LFS guy told me they were raised with "fake anemones" and he does not think they will take to the LTA??? Any input is appreciated,the tank only inhabitants are the 2 clowns and the LTA.. PLEASE, ANY BODY HAVE ANY IDEAS :?: :?: :?:
TANK RAISED FALSE PERCULAS /LONG TENTACLE ANEMONE HOST
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I had a pair of tank-raised false percs (just one now; the other died! 
) that I added near the end of my fish tales (punn intended). I then added a bulb tip anemone, which I had read was the easiest to take care of, and the one anemone that most clownfish prefered. A week later, the anemone dies without ever having been touched by the clowns! I think a hidden ammonia level or some other toxin (hidden in that I couldnt tell with my stupid freakin tests...) must have gotten both the clown and the anemone....
Any way, the moral of my stupidity is that some clowns wont touch even their favorite type of anemone; I also think that Ocellaris (false percula) clowns are less apt to take to anemones in captivity. Also, being that they are tank-raised, tank them down another couple of notches on the probably factor for hosting in any sort of anemone or LPS coral, since they lack the immediate intuition of instinct a bit.
...Solomente meus dos centavos...
) that I added near the end of my fish tales (punn intended). I then added a bulb tip anemone, which I had read was the easiest to take care of, and the one anemone that most clownfish prefered. A week later, the anemone dies without ever having been touched by the clowns! I think a hidden ammonia level or some other toxin (hidden in that I couldnt tell with my stupid freakin tests...) must have gotten both the clown and the anemone....Any way, the moral of my stupidity is that some clowns wont touch even their favorite type of anemone; I also think that Ocellaris (false percula) clowns are less apt to take to anemones in captivity. Also, being that they are tank-raised, tank them down another couple of notches on the probably factor for hosting in any sort of anemone or LPS coral, since they lack the immediate intuition of instinct a bit.
...Solomente meus dos centavos...
anemones really shouldn't be added at all to any system less than a year old
they are absolutely not necessary for clown health, or breeding
most anemones that are symbionts need a big tank, mh lighting, and absolutely pristine water quality
soft corals are more forgiving, usually, than anemones are, re: water quality issues
please research before you buy
what's a 'pacifica' anemone?
they are absolutely not necessary for clown health, or breeding
most anemones that are symbionts need a big tank, mh lighting, and absolutely pristine water quality
soft corals are more forgiving, usually, than anemones are, re: water quality issues
please research before you buy
what's a 'pacifica' anemone?
Maybe he means an anemone from the Pacific as opposed to, say, a Caribbean carpet, or my favorite type of question, "Why won't my <fill in the clown species here> host my beautiful Condylactis anemone?"
Acclimation procedures are a very common mistake, and I know lots of folks would disagree with me, but I would quarantine the anemone. Better to know you haven't got it right in the q/t (line it with astroturf for the anemone, btw) rather than in the main system. So is throwing an anemone, even a relatively hardy one (other than Aiptasia) into a new system.
I don't think the water quality can be emphasized enough.
As to whether or not these tank raised (and, I'm assuming captive bred) clowns will take to any anemone or not - from what I've been reading it is indeed very much a hit or miss with these little guys. With tank raised it can, at times, be more miss than hit, as I read story after story of them not hosting anything, let alone anemones. Makes me wonder just how much of this behavior is instinctive and how much of it is learned.
Acclimation procedures are a very common mistake, and I know lots of folks would disagree with me, but I would quarantine the anemone. Better to know you haven't got it right in the q/t (line it with astroturf for the anemone, btw) rather than in the main system. So is throwing an anemone, even a relatively hardy one (other than Aiptasia) into a new system.
I don't think the water quality can be emphasized enough.
As to whether or not these tank raised (and, I'm assuming captive bred) clowns will take to any anemone or not - from what I've been reading it is indeed very much a hit or miss with these little guys. With tank raised it can, at times, be more miss than hit, as I read story after story of them not hosting anything, let alone anemones. Makes me wonder just how much of this behavior is instinctive and how much of it is learned.
thats ok on the generalization. Common names screw up everything..Its best, if you can, get the scientific name from the LFS when you buy. they can look it up so dont let them give you crap on this how it came in as..thats just laziness and poor customer service..They know what they bought..
Actually, lots DON'T know what they bought and may be relying on the wholesaler to tell them. At some point someone needs to make use of these things called books and make as close an ID as possible.
I'm very glad to hear your anemone AND fishes are in q/t! Good on ya!
I'm very glad to hear your anemone AND fishes are in q/t! Good on ya!
Does it feel lonely?
Like I said, if they're tank-raised they may simply have no clue what to do. Now, get ready for a REALLY whacked idea. If you can, set up a small t.v. next to their tank. On it play a loop (or really long video) of clowns hosting their anemone. Do this for... a MONTH! Yeah, that's the ticket.
Like I said, if they're tank-raised they may simply have no clue what to do. Now, get ready for a REALLY whacked idea. If you can, set up a small t.v. next to their tank. On it play a loop (or really long video) of clowns hosting their anemone. Do this for... a MONTH! Yeah, that's the ticket.
LOL seamaiden!!! That was so hilarious, I almost lost control of my bodily functions!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
...ROFL... *wipes tears from eyes* ... Whew! Yeah! You know, that actually sounds like a good idea, once you think about it some...!
Im gonna try with my false percula! Although, I dont have an anemone, I do have a long-tentacle plate coral and a torch coral that look like anemones... The one BTA I ever tried to keep just up and turned upside down and died... My tank is not anemone-savvy...
...ROFL... *wipes tears from eyes* ... Whew! Yeah! You know, that actually sounds like a good idea, once you think about it some...!
Im gonna try with my false percula! Although, I dont have an anemone, I do have a long-tentacle plate coral and a torch coral that look like anemones... The one BTA I ever tried to keep just up and turned upside down and died... My tank is not anemone-savvy...
I am making a continous loop of anemone and 2 clowns hosting and intemingling ,I taped it from science of the deep TV program.I set up a 10" color monitor right smack in front of the glass and I have it on a timer.It is set that when the lights go off the tape goes on&on&on&on............I will keep everyone posted of the results!!!!!!!!!
I know I am new ... but my local reef guy at my LFS
said that tank raised clowns need to learn how to host, so he buys his from a local breeder that raises his with anemones. I bought two from him and right away they hosted in my plate coral. I do have bubble and one long tentle anemone but they perfer my plate coral. I want to know why everyone says that you should not have an anemone untill your tank is 1 year old? My tank was 3 months old and I put my long T. in. He is large and happy so then I put in two bubbles and they seem happy too. Am I going to have problems later?
said that tank raised clowns need to learn how to host, so he buys his from a local breeder that raises his with anemones. I bought two from him and right away they hosted in my plate coral. I do have bubble and one long tentle anemone but they perfer my plate coral. I want to know why everyone says that you should not have an anemone untill your tank is 1 year old? My tank was 3 months old and I put my long T. in. He is large and happy so then I put in two bubbles and they seem happy too. Am I going to have problems later?
So, it would seem that this is indeed a learned behavior, at least in part. I would rather use the tape than be sticking my hands in the damned tank every day, though (everyone else I'd ever worked with got about as sick of having their hands in tanks as I did after a certain point. Sure cured me fast of that "stick yer hands in the tank" syndrome!)
Welcome to reefs.org, Owen. I hate to say this, but a 3 month old tank simply isn't stable or well-established, it's hardly finished cycling truth be told. Anemones lifespans can be (depending upon species, of course) dozens of years, I've read tortoise-like lifespans. So, a few months, or even a few years, can't exactly be called a "success story". I would think that if someone's been keeping theirs going for 5-10 years that they may be on their way towards keeping a creature they can will to their grandchildren. Also, personally, I can't advocate mixing anemones in small systems, especially loading them up as it sounds you have done here.
You can find information via the boards here, as well as our library (link up top) and Advanced Aquarist Online Magazine (the database for this is HUGE).
Welcome to reefs.org, Owen. I hate to say this, but a 3 month old tank simply isn't stable or well-established, it's hardly finished cycling truth be told. Anemones lifespans can be (depending upon species, of course) dozens of years, I've read tortoise-like lifespans. So, a few months, or even a few years, can't exactly be called a "success story". I would think that if someone's been keeping theirs going for 5-10 years that they may be on their way towards keeping a creature they can will to their grandchildren. Also, personally, I can't advocate mixing anemones in small systems, especially loading them up as it sounds you have done here.
You can find information via the boards here, as well as our library (link up top) and Advanced Aquarist Online Magazine (the database for this is HUGE).
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