I dunno still, its still unclear if the 250 watt DE 10k bulb is superior in PPFD to the 150 watt version. After looking over 3 articles in the past by Sanjay, its not clearcut at all. The 150 DE gets a 246 with shield and reflector, the 250 DE scores around 100 without shield and reflector if I am correct. And the shield will only drop the figure a bit, so the missing link is what does the reflector add in value realisitically?