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bgdiving

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Do you know what type of Xenia you have? Everyone is speaking as if there is one type of Xenia. There are many verieties some are extremly difficult to keep or propigate and others are like weeds. I have 6 different types of pulsing xenia but do not have Xenia Elongata which is probably what most people are referring to when they say Xenia.

The Xenia I have the most of is the Fiji Pom Pom Xenia (possibly Xenia umbellata) tolerates a wide range of lighting from bottom of a 55 gallon tank with 2 40 watt NOs to 3 inches below the surface dirrectly under a 400 watt halide supplimented with 2 110watt VHOs. They tolerate mimimal current to very forcefull water motion although they definately look different under different conditions. My blue leg hermits and scarlets do not seem to bother them nor do the emerald crabs nor do the perpermint shrimp.
BUT a couple of the good LFS can't seem to keep them a live while they'll thrive at other LFS
Once I brought some back that were badly withering away at a LFS after 10 days and after about a wk of bairly hanging in there in my tank they melted down and in the process wiped out all the pom pom xenias (around 200 xenias) in my 400 gallon system while not affecting any of the other species of Xenias in the system and not affecting any of the other corals, mostly SPSs but a few other softies and a few LPSs. I have no idea why they melt down at some LFS and not at others but once the process started I could not reverse it by placing them in what had been ideal growing conditions for them. And what ever caused the melt down then caused the xenias to give off a species specific toxin (in my opionion) that wiped out the rest of my Pom Poms in that system while other Xenia species flourished. I waited a month after the last Pom Pom totally withered away and reintroduce Pom Pom Xenias and they are doing well in that system again.

It may be that your xenia some where along the line of shipping and handling may have been affected by some toxins of some sort or some other enviroonmental factor and no matter what you tried to do it may have all ready been too late to save them. Do the "bite marks " look clean and sharp or more like sores or irroded areas? If you get a chance after doing some water changes try getting some Xenias direcly from some one who has them growing well and place them in your tank without allowing them to go through any one elses system. That may just work for you, if not then you need to try to figure out what it is in your system that they don't like and that seems to be a major mystry for those who can't keep Xenias. Good luck.
 

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What I have concluded from reading and talking to others is that Xenia needs less than pristine water conditions to survive, like Caulerpa it is kind of a nutrient trap. Just curious, has anyone had success with Xenia in an sps dominated tank? IMO, I would think the two require different water conditions.
Steve
 

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Xenia will live through about anything except shipping stress. FWIW, it has an extremely negative reaction to iodine. Also, it seems to do better with slightly higher alkalinity. Peppermints will not normally eat Xenia but even if they did healthy Xenia would grow faster than they could consume it. Keep trying the Xenia and once you get it to take off you will have pristine water as it is great for nutrient export. HTH
 

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SPC
I keep Xenias mostly with SPSs. Some tanks have more Xenia than SPSs but also have tanks dominated by SPs with some Xenia doesn't seem to make any difference.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
extremely negative reaction to iodine
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great for nutrient export

I have a question, I may have been told wrong, but I've always been told that xenia require a lot of iodine and that they release a lot of crap into the water, and these two quotes seem to say the opposite, supported by the above post as well, have I been misled? If so, instead of tossing culled xenia into a basement pond, I'll set up a xenia refugium to keep my water quality optimum.
 

Rod Buehler

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by davelin315:
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I may have been told wrong, but I've always been told that xenia require a lot of iodine and that they release a lot of crap into the water, and these two quotes seem to say the opposite, supported by the above post as well, have I been misled? </STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, you were misled
 

reefhope

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I have never heard (until now) that xenia reacts negatively to iodide/iodine, i've always read and been told the opposite. Someone should also inform Delbeek and Sprung about that because they are giving bad advise if it is true...Hee Hee

My xenia, whatever species, was eaten entirely. I believe something taste tested it and after realizing it was pallatable munched away. I also do not believe that anything in a reef tank can grow faster than it can be eaten....a tang will even consume caulerpa faster than it can grow.

I am going to try xenia in a separate tank using the same water in my display tank...I will post the results although it may be a few months down the road.
 

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I'm not sure it reacts "negatively" to any iodine, just higher than normal levels of iodine. I almost never add iodine to my tank, and I have so much xenia it is sick. If they were really using it up that quickly, I dont think I would have any in my water. But as you have said, you don't think that is the problem, but some hungry little guy munching on your corals. Your experiment sounds good, let us know what happens.
 

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