Anyone who likes Anemones, Please read this

[Anonymous]

LTA's are another spieces that are having good success given the right setting. Given the fact that the LTA enjoys having its foot in contact with rock but also pushed in sand it is a lot less likey to go for walks and sting corals. This of course is depending that there is the right lighting and water flow.

 

[phishy4]

2 stores here in Cincinnati have had bubble-tip anemones living for over 10 years so it can be done

 

[Anonymous]

Steve,

You would think by now I would not care about these "baiting" posts and to be honest I do not. The thing that is frustrating is that if you search Reefs and RC there are not a lot of good discussions about the keeping of Anemones that do not end up in a flame fest or people purposefully stay away from them to avoid childish name calling. Hell these animals are sold by the tons but it never seems to get to a good dialog without the typical dogma.

They are beautiful creatures that exhibit a simbiotic relationship that has no equal. If more people shared more directly their experiences these animals survival in captivity would flourish. To reduce any animal to a bar code at home depot is not to respect the trust that we have been givin to care for animals in our care.

 

[SPC]

Thank you ging for your conscientious view on reefkeeping.

Steve

 

[Ritteri&Bubbles]

Ging: Dont rule out Anemones just yet. Many people keep the notion that all anemones require expert care. This is a falsehood. All anemones do require that their needs be met(just like ANY saltwater creature, or anything living for that matter), But there are a few where this is easier than expected. Because of some articles posted years ago, people now are led to believe that anemones are hard or impossible to keep. This is not the case at all. I will give the basic example.

Entacima Quadricolor:

Requirements:

Lighting: Moderate to high, VHO,PC actinic or MH lighting will do just fine for them.
Water Parameters. Keep natural conditions as close to possible. THis includes calcium,alk,phosphates etc, along with the usual, no ammonia,nitrites,nitrates minimized, proper ph(8.0-8.4 roughly),also of note, minimize the inflated value of Alk as most people crank it up higher than what is found in NSW. And make sure your Salinity matches the salinity as close as possible to where the anemone originated, be it captive bred or wild. Temp, again the same here. Salinity is one of the biggest killers of anemones next to powerheads from what I have found, so this one is very important.
Current. This varies, so have varying areas in your tank(shouldnt be hard).
Hosts: If it isnt found in the wild, then dont do it in your tank if possible. Try and match up a clownfish with its natural host and vice versa.
Topography: Again match this up with your anemone(bubbletips like rocks,Malu's like sand etc.)
Powerheads: these are needed, so if they have to be IN the tank, take precautionary measures, put screens on etc. Dont let an accident happen when it can easily be avoided.

These are some basics for this anemone, but just like ANY animal we keep, you just have to know its needs. So the people who say that they are hard to keep, or "expert care only" only prolong the myth about learning more about these wonderful creatures. If Im correct, just not too long ago, we were saying the same things about LPS,SPS corals etc werent we?! I would love to know the sucess rate of all these corals, even today. How many posts have we all read concerning someone losing this coral, or that fish etc??I have read countless more of those posts than all other combined it seems. If someone did a basic survey over some corals and fish I bet the trend would be the same or very similiar.

[ July 29, 2001: Message edited by: Ritteri&Bubbles ]

 

[coyoteman0]

Alright, So i went out on a limb to be a little sarcastic to get a point accross ----
I do not truly think they are the smartest things in exsistance - But they do have feelings - Just not on the same plane as we do ? that doesn't make them anymore inferior than us - Just because a person doesn't have feeling in his body due to certain nerve damage doesn't say we could mistreat them - This is not a flame just my point of view -
I agree with you that they should be protected.

Sickened was a little more than what I really was but damn it got a response ! -
And now you know who feels how.

 

[Quillen]

Not everyone has the same empathy for animals and I am not likely to be able to change that. I can be a good example and nicely point people in that direction, but thats all. We can really just account for our own actions

. I learn & grow from the multiple tank experience.

There are alternatives to anemones, a set of mushrooms may be what you start with.. making your way to bubble coral (makes a nice starter item). Some of the bubbles are filter feeders even. If you can keep a bubble alive for a year, along with other things & have the requirements met to move on. You may be able to do something more intense. Maybe you don't want to keep an anemone at all, but if you do, I think experience should be gathered. I have had very few problems with my anemones and been able to get through them (knock on wood).

I am ready to try to "give back" to the hobby and see if I can manage to do some tank raised stuff. If it works, I'll get a slightly bigger "main" tank (whatever my third floor will hold) & do a little more.

 

[ging]

Ritteri,
I appreciate the info

I am going to have the 125 for a Blue Hippo Tang, so I will build around his/her requirements

I have only been in the reef world about 5 mths and think I need some time to consider myself reef savvy enough to take on a experienced project like the anemone. Yesterday I lost my long tentacle plate coral that I had for about 3 mths and was pretty upset. I did everything I knew to do to keep it alive and was not able to do so

I myself had rather not get something and watch it die because I don't have the experience to keep it and help it when it is sick. Maybe in a year or so when my big tank is established I will take on a anemone project

ging

 

[esmithiii]

coyoteman0:

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Anemones are some of the most beautiful, probably smartest living things in exsistance

I hope you are joking. How could a resonably intelligent person actually believe this?

I personally will not attempt an anemone after reading the post, unless I can dedicate a tank specifically to the care of an anemone. To say that they are as intelligent as a dolfin, a border collie, a chimpanze even though they don't have a brain is absolutely ludicrous.

Key point: Different people regard the value of different types of life differently. Your value system is not superior just because you feel strongly about it.

Fishaholic:

Excellent information!

 

[esmithiii]

coyoteman0:

Disregard last post (at least the slightly
flame-ish part...) I wrote this last night but for got to hit "Add Reply", then hit "Add Reply" before reading your reply.

 

[ging]

Quillen,
My superior (Biologist) that I report to for fish things at SMSU says that fish should be treated like carrots, because I don't believe anything should be flushed and use my sick tank with good success. He figures we can get another one, so this isn't an uncommon theme.

That is really sad especially coming from a superior (Biologist)..

I would think that someone that has chosen that type of field would have more compassion and ethical treatment of anything that is in their care. I am glad that you take the sickly ones and try to help them.

I find it very strange and sad that people buy fish and corals for their tank just to "try" and make it work. I am going to get a 125 tank and had wanted to get an anemone. I have not researched them as the tank I have now is on a 60gal, but after reading the post's on them I know that even with the 125gal I will not be ready for one because of my lack of experience, sigh.... another cool thing marked off of my list

So, thanks for the info from everybody

ging

 

[villious]

Anemones are some of the most beautiful, probably smartest living things in exsistance.

I thought anemones didn't have brains?

 

[Anonymous]

Holy necroposting batman 8O

 

[Anonymous]

8O

 

[Anonymous]

The dust in here is making me sneeze.