I got flat worms, need Ideas to get rid of them
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hmmmm. that sounds promising. I have heard of such a nudi but never actually saw one available. I am going to check it out. I am sure there are others with FW that would be willing to take the nudi once its job is complete.
rhonna, are you going to the frag swap this month?
rhonna, are you going to the frag swap this month?
I think Matt is keeping that to much of a secret
. I do have flat worms and would like to get rid of the buggers. I dont think I am going to drop 30 on a nudi that has a poor shipping record tho.
Rohna the frag swap is April 13 in the Akron/canton area. last swap (and the first) was in Columbus and we had about 30 people. I look for at least that number this time as well. I will email the info to you, hope to see you there!
anyone else need info send me an email.
*Sorry for going off topic with that*
Rohna the frag swap is April 13 in the Akron/canton area. last swap (and the first) was in Columbus and we had about 30 people. I look for at least that number this time as well. I will email the info to you, hope to see you there!
anyone else need info send me an email.
*Sorry for going off topic with that*
I have sprung's vol2 at my computer table. The nudie spoken of is 'Chelidonura varians' and eats the 'convolutrioba retrogemma' flatworms. On the flatworm killing additive, I should add sprung goes into detail that "the sudden death of a large population of flatworms in the tank will turn the water reddish brown, kill all the fish and severely stress or kill the invertebrates".
a while back, I think in Aug 2001, MattM had a product in testing that eliminated the flatworms, I wonder how that's going, anyone know? <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote I think they were having alot of problems. I remember him saying (Quote) The project got put on the back burner !
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check this out:
"The lower right image is a composite of three photos of a small white flatworm, which eats some of the brown flatworms found in many reef tanks. It may also eat the red planarian, but this is uncertain, and experiments are being done to confirm"
this photo:
http://rshimek.com/images/flatworm%20composite1.jpg
this is the web site:
http://rshimek.com/odd_critters.htm
I'm not sure, but I think I've seen these guy's in my tank, I was infected by the red planarian not to long ago, I've just been sucking them up during water changes, I've seen some clear ones too, tonight I'm going to take a closer look n see if their attacking the reds.
"The lower right image is a composite of three photos of a small white flatworm, which eats some of the brown flatworms found in many reef tanks. It may also eat the red planarian, but this is uncertain, and experiments are being done to confirm"
this photo:
http://rshimek.com/images/flatworm%20composite1.jpg
this is the web site:
http://rshimek.com/odd_critters.htm
I'm not sure, but I think I've seen these guy's in my tank, I was infected by the red planarian not to long ago, I've just been sucking them up during water changes, I've seen some clear ones too, tonight I'm going to take a closer look n see if their attacking the reds.
I wish I could remember who gave me this wonderful advice because I'd love to give him/her credit, but, alas....I seem to be having a rather permanent "senior moment" these days.
That said, this person told me to suction the flatworms off the rocks, glass and sand bed with a small airhose. Here's the benefit: You can remove MANY MANY MANY of these pests without siphoning out too much water with a larger vacuum, which doesn't really pull the flatworms up in as great a number anyway.
I've made a tremendous dent in my flatworm population, although I haven't irradicated them yet. It is a rather tedious process, and it's best to look at your rocks through a magnifying glass before you start so that you can target larger groups of them.
Here's what I really like about the process: while it's slower and requires more work, it is completely chemical (thus, risk) free. And trust me, these little @$!!##'s pop right in to a 1/4" diameter airhose and swirl down to the bucket with no problem. I'm on my third siphon, and I really have to look for them at this point. I've made it part of my routine water change now.
I doubt I'll ever get rid of them completely, but if I can keep ahead of their reproduction, I should be able to avoid experimental chemicals, or take a pricey chance on a nudibranch who has a slim-to-none chance in my tank.
Thanks
Leslie
That said, this person told me to suction the flatworms off the rocks, glass and sand bed with a small airhose. Here's the benefit: You can remove MANY MANY MANY of these pests without siphoning out too much water with a larger vacuum, which doesn't really pull the flatworms up in as great a number anyway.
I've made a tremendous dent in my flatworm population, although I haven't irradicated them yet. It is a rather tedious process, and it's best to look at your rocks through a magnifying glass before you start so that you can target larger groups of them.
Here's what I really like about the process: while it's slower and requires more work, it is completely chemical (thus, risk) free. And trust me, these little @$!!##'s pop right in to a 1/4" diameter airhose and swirl down to the bucket with no problem. I'm on my third siphon, and I really have to look for them at this point. I've made it part of my routine water change now.
I doubt I'll ever get rid of them completely, but if I can keep ahead of their reproduction, I should be able to avoid experimental chemicals, or take a pricey chance on a nudibranch who has a slim-to-none chance in my tank.
Thanks
Leslie
Thanks Leslie, that's a great idea, I've been siphoning them up with a 1/2" hose, the one I've always used for regular water changes.
I took another look at those clear flatworms last night, and no I didn't witness any of them attacking the reds.
I did see a couple of them bump into each other, the clear one jumped back from the Red as if it was shocked or something, so null on that one, but at least the clear one's don't appear to be taking over.
I took another look at those clear flatworms last night, and no I didn't witness any of them attacking the reds.
I did see a couple of them bump into each other, the clear one jumped back from the Red as if it was shocked or something, so null on that one, but at least the clear one's don't appear to be taking over.
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by danmhippo:
<strong>The last I know of it, they are still in the process of patenting it, and won't release it to anyone until it is ready for marketing.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Dan is correct, the patent application is in progress.
Try not to draw too many conclusions from our early results and beta testing. We continue to refine the product and procedure and have now been using it as needed in our tanks for almost a year with no effects other than a lack of flatworms.
<strong>The last I know of it, they are still in the process of patenting it, and won't release it to anyone until it is ready for marketing.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Dan is correct, the patent application is in progress.
Try not to draw too many conclusions from our early results and beta testing. We continue to refine the product and procedure and have now been using it as needed in our tanks for almost a year with no effects other than a lack of flatworms.
Thanks for the replys
Well, I did the greenex treatment and killed them dead, nothing in the tank even changed the acros polyps never closed. All the flat worms are dead withing 4 hours. I am running heavy carbon to clean out the greenex. all went very well. I dont like putting stuff in the tank but I thought I better get it soon.
David
Well, I did the greenex treatment and killed them dead, nothing in the tank even changed the acros polyps never closed. All the flat worms are dead withing 4 hours. I am running heavy carbon to clean out the greenex. all went very well. I dont like putting stuff in the tank but I thought I better get it soon.
David
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