I had same prob, it turned out to be Flat worms!! i never seen them till i broke tank down and started finding them, they do good job at hiding out.. they were actually between the base of the SPS and the rock or plug.. i ripped my hair out trying to figure it out but in end YOU cant beat Flat worms, brake it down and start over
Thinking of doing a big water change
- Thread starter duke62
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- Location
- Dingmans ferry PA
beat flatworms already. i know what to look for in flatworms. i have dipped around 10 to 15 pieces and nothing is coming off. if it were AEFW i would have seen at least one come off
- Location
- Long island
Hey duke, I have an extra heater and a submergable filter with built in heater you can borrow, tomorrow if course.
- Location
- Franklin Square, NY
do the water change and maybe change the carbon out as well sounds like it's still water quality related. I have had many corals start from the base and just stop. As mentioned if you can remove their rock they are mounted to and glue around seems to help as well...they also can be fraged and re-glued down...
- Location
- Dingmans ferry PA
my tank waters alk i keep at a steady 8 to 8.5 my new 25 gallons i made is at 11.6. how big of a problem is this and if it is a big problem how do i lower my new waters alk
- Location
- Westchester, N.Y
You using 25 gal for frags that's why you keep it higher. If your dozing stop. Do water change to bring it back regular salt levels. Did you add anything new to tank lately.To me sounds like you went through rough times with flat worms. than salinity changing a little. Than Rust....Did your tank go through sandy ok. All these things can cause above mention. I would right away save as much SPS by cutting them down. Than put them in your 25 gal which you would have stabilize. And dip again. Sorry to say break down the main tank and start over. Main thing save SPS. Worms, Rust, salinity swing. You got to many problems for SPS to survive. Cut stabilize 25 gal. Save much as possible. If SPS are STN fast. Cut not just where white go more to healthier part of SPS. Better short than death. Good luck...
- Location
- north jersey
i ran into the stn plaque about 2-3 years ago, i was losing colonies after colonies. some were over 3-4 yrs old... most were grown from small frags. it was a 300g 4+years old established and stable system.
the weirdest thing was that it wasn't all at the same time it seemed to be a couple at a time. i did have redbugs which were dealt with with no subsequent problems. but that wasn't it. every pests were checked for, different brand test kits were used, all rodi filters replaced, fresh salt water tested, holding containers replaced, every equipment broken down and maintained, fragging, glueing, puttying, dipping, feeding more, feeding less, increased flow, lessened flow, more light, less light, increased temp., decreased temp, lotion potion, voodoo....nothing helped. all these over a period of almost a year.
then i accidentally nuked the tank with kalk reactor about 14 months ago. lost 99% of the sps and over 90% of other livestock. it was devastating but you know what? after 3-4 weeks of massive water changes(80g of salt water that i have on hand at all time plus cleared the shelves of a couple of lfs's 18 boxes of natural sea water the first day alone, then went through 4 boxes of 200g esv).....literally starting over except with the same rocks, i now have a thriving colonies of acro's grown from tiny frags again.
it's been a blessing in disguise???? i still don't know what the problem was. if it were bacteria/viral/pest, etc, i guess the kalk took care of that. i had no more stn problem....cause i had no acro left....:duh:
i hate to say it but you may have to "start over"....perhaps begin with massive water changes.
gl, i hope things get resolved....one way or another.
the weirdest thing was that it wasn't all at the same time it seemed to be a couple at a time. i did have redbugs which were dealt with with no subsequent problems. but that wasn't it. every pests were checked for, different brand test kits were used, all rodi filters replaced, fresh salt water tested, holding containers replaced, every equipment broken down and maintained, fragging, glueing, puttying, dipping, feeding more, feeding less, increased flow, lessened flow, more light, less light, increased temp., decreased temp, lotion potion, voodoo....nothing helped. all these over a period of almost a year.
then i accidentally nuked the tank with kalk reactor about 14 months ago. lost 99% of the sps and over 90% of other livestock. it was devastating but you know what? after 3-4 weeks of massive water changes(80g of salt water that i have on hand at all time plus cleared the shelves of a couple of lfs's 18 boxes of natural sea water the first day alone, then went through 4 boxes of 200g esv).....literally starting over except with the same rocks, i now have a thriving colonies of acro's grown from tiny frags again.
it's been a blessing in disguise???? i still don't know what the problem was. if it were bacteria/viral/pest, etc, i guess the kalk took care of that. i had no more stn problem....cause i had no acro left....:duh:
i hate to say it but you may have to "start over"....perhaps begin with massive water changes.
gl, i hope things get resolved....one way or another.
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- Location
- Garden city
Hi duke might wanna chat with a guy named dogboydave on another site pm me for the site but I think he's on both the big ones!
Any way he's got an amazing sps system And has helped me out a bit but he is a big proponent of a 100% water change I never tried it be this guy swears buy them when something is outta wack
Any way he's got an amazing sps system And has helped me out a bit but he is a big proponent of a 100% water change I never tried it be this guy swears buy them when something is outta wack
- Location
- Dingmans ferry PA
well im going to do a big water change but how can i lower the alk in new water to match tank water. tank is 8.5 and new is 11.5
- Location
- Garden city
That's tuff one I use instant ocean it has alk about 8 when mixed for salinty 1.025
It's cheap $40 for bucket
It's cheap $40 for bucket
- Location
- Dingmans ferry PA
im stopping everything i have been doing as well. No more zeo crap except for flatstop and k balance. im going to stop with kalk in top off because 3 weeks into it i started noticing stn. threw away that algae scrubber. going to check alk every other day even though i have been doing that already and just simplify everything i can.
If your total water volume is 100G and you are going to change 25G (25%) with the mix with the higher alk..you will still be well within range of acceptable levels of dKH and the change won't be enormous, nor should it impact your corals. They can handle a change within the range you would be making. Add the new water into a high flow area.
Just curious - what is your Ca?
I'd be concerned that your new bucket of salt is mixing at 11.5. Mix it up more and test to see if it is still coming up at 11.5. If it is, I'd return it
Just curious - what is your Ca?
I'd be concerned that your new bucket of salt is mixing at 11.5. Mix it up more and test to see if it is still coming up at 11.5. If it is, I'd return it
- Location
- Dingmans ferry PA
the zeo stuff is the basic crap i have always used. flatsop,k balance,coral snow and zeozyme and the bacteria. the flatstop and k were for the worms,zeozyme and bacteria were for the cyano along with coral snow. but been nusing it since last november. still going to stop using it all
- Location
- Dingmans ferry PA
yeah but everyone that i know personally know how diligent i am on water changes yet i still get cyano so was using it to combat it. i think with the better skimmer i wont need it anymore
- Location
- port jefferson sta, NY
Have you checked for copper? run a polyfilter?
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